If you are taking his advice to heart, then there is absolutely no reason to be arguing about his advice not working at different BPMs >_>

The only time when accuracy becomes becomes muscle memory is when you have extremely long streams when the music is a blur (as in you can't really hear the beat very clearly). Other than that, by learning the slower tempo streams you begin to develop a sort of mental clock that keeps track of the beat along with music. Also looking at new combos is a very helpful way to know where you are in relation to the beat. I would just look at the new combo and the distance away from it I am, and adjust accordingly to be able to reach that note at the correct time. Sometimes the combo is really long and so it gets a little harder (and it becomes muscle memory for you cursor moving hand, but you are still able to hear the beat and stream with accuracy if not your cursor be accurate).

Also, I have learned this lesson many times when playing piano. Going fast first isn't going to help. Doing so results in very unstable and insecure playing. You tend to mess up randomly a lot more. But if you practice slowly first and get that very solid and exact, speeding up the tempo to the current on will not be hard and it will greatly increase stability of my piano playing. Sadly, I still don't give enough of a shit sometimes and still do it anyways. And I'm not some mediocre piano player saying this, not to be arrogant or anything, so I have a lot of experience in such things.



tl;dr Playing fast stuff all the time will result in muscle memory accuracy, which will make it hard to be accurate in other BPMs. Playing slow stuff will mentally develop a clock that will aid your accuracy through conscious thought, not muscle memory, which will be able to adapt to other BPMs.

lolcubes wrote: 544t

Just a mention: if you want to be good at accuracy, you should be playing with hitsounds.

Yeah this.

1. Get obnoxiously loud and clear hitsounds (ping pong)
2. Turn hitsound volume up and music volume down (100/70)
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!

DON'T adjust to what other players use just because they said so, adjust to whatever yourself feels comfortable with rather than using the excuse "oh I suck it must be how I play".

The only way to improve at a noticeable rate is to play maps that are just out of your skill level; that means maps that aren't too easy for you and maps that are way too hard for you (wants to stab everyone who suggests playing a map that would take said 999999999 retries to get the first 5 seconds).

coolbeans

well shit ive been looking at squares as a whole pattern for 2.5 years, no wonder i suck at them

I've realized that actually myself too quite a while ago, I use this sort of thing for a lot of other patterns as well.

.

Actually Soly I have the same problem with retrying

Not be a nerdy scientific noobynoobnoobfagnew, but sleep is apparently where you learn most of the daily activities that you practice, especially for things requiring muscle memory. So, in some ways, some people are just luckier and more fortunate than others. After you practice something for a decent amount of time a certain day, you will learn somethings immediately, but the vast majority of muscle memory and improvement just comes randomly overnight (some days, it doesn't really happen, but other days it just kind of happens.) Taking breaks from osu! kinda aids in this process a bit.

about the retrying, well after a certain point you reach your limit for that time of the day, at least for that time period.

wait, what am i saying. just practice. okay

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Second, practice slow streams. Playing too much fast streams will get you bad habits (like mashing through slider-streams or fast parts you can't read) which is bad for accuracy.

Omfg now that I think of it it could be my problem.I I always used to play DT on maps I couldn't , and now whatever the BPM is all I do is smashing keys without following the BPM or rhythm of the song and that's why I'm really bad at stream accuracy... I guess I should try playing low BPM stream maps until I have good accu

winber1 wrote: z3x6i

Taking breaks from osu! kinda aids in this process a bit.

not just a bit, terribly much.

Jordan wrote: 3d2y23

I I always used to play DT on maps I couldn't , and now whatever the BPM is all I do is smashing keys without following the BPM or rhythm of the song and that's why I'm really bad at stream accuracy... I guess I should try playing low BPM stream maps until I have good accu

that it's a rhythm game, keep rhythm to play rhythm games properly. It's not always easy though.

Someone stickie this, please

bump

Tom69 wrote: 5u5i1m

There are several methods that helped me succeed certain square patterns. The most important thing that all of those methods have in common is:
Don't look at the pattern as a whole. Ever.

My main problem of all time tbh. I'm suffering from this problem a lot while trying to clear the square patterns on Masterpiece, however AR8 keeps me away from not reading them as a pattern while AR10 make it like a walk in the park.

And the other problem is panic that got out of control. There are several approval maps which I almost fc'd and with good accuracy too. However as I'm getting close to finishing the map, I just couldn't stop panicking. My hand's shaking and my heart cannot stop beating and finally I ended up with a miss which is later followed with more misses or even fail.

also lol @Aqo this is a rhythm game, accuracy and timing matter the most.
I also tried lewa's advice and it actually worked. My accuracy has been improving compared to how it was like 4-6 months ago though it doesn't make anyone goes "wow" or anything, there's a real significant difference right there. There are several Insanes in which I FC'd them with an A long time ago but now I'm able to FC them again with an S easily.

Play this map 100 times and you'll be master of squares.

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Play this map 100 times and you'll be master of squares.

no

Agree.

you forgot this
How to improve at osu: having fun

winber1 wrote: z3x6i

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Play this map 100 times and you'll be master of squares.

no

No, that one is just easy compared to Atama no Taisou [Nogard]. :l

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

you forgot this
How to improve at osu: having fun

Best method out there.

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

you forgot this
How to improve at osu: having fun

+1

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

you forgot this
How to improve at osu: having fun

you forgot this
How to improve at osu: flashlight hack
macacito = cocococo

not

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

not

and im not aevv

hi not aevv

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

hi not aevv

hi cococococoosu flashlight hacker

Oh shit! Hackers! RUN!!!

nrii wrote: 6o6p10

How to improve at osu: flashlight hack

worth the try

xann wrote: k6157

winber1 wrote: z3x6i

Taking breaks from osu! kinda aids in this process a bit.

not just a bit, terribly much.

Might have to agree here... I took a break from osu! for a few days (got a new GPU, had to go stress it out with other games), and I came back to osu! today and ed this beatmap first try... http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/b/120695 (0108) (was never able to this beatmap in the past).

where's ijah?

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Play this map 1000 times with DoubleTime and you'll be master of squares.

/fixed


PS: Trying this a few times until actually worked for me pretty well, huehue.

Tom69 wrote: 5u5i1m

PS: Trying this a few times until actually worked for me pretty well, huehue.

Secret instant pro technique... GET!

Tom69 wrote: 5u5i1m

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Hit your own dick with a hammer 1000 times with DoubleTime and you'll be master of everything.

/fixed

Well thats what I feel when I think about doing Story of my Wife in DT.

Just play the hardest shit you have till you become better at it. One accuracy percentage a day works for me.

OP is now 90% more kawaii moe ugu desu.

(｡･｀ω´･｡)

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

where's ijah?

Yo.

Contributing to thread: Streaming isn't so much in the fingers as it is in the tricep (the muscle that drives the tendons), training that muscle in the usual ways helps you get faster and (kind of) helps stamina a little.
I tend to just tense up my arm and get those two fingers to 'shake' somewhat.

For me it's all about the fingers actually. The more I raise my fingers while streaming (and hitting keys with bigger force), the more accurate I actually am, just like playing piano for example. On stupidly high bpm (around 210 and onwards) that becomes a little different though, because you are just wasting strength if you want to press keys with big force which is unnecessary due to smaller timing, but the fingers are still the main part of the thing, at least for me.
This could also be the reason why my streaming is so terrible in 200~220 range and is fine above and below. I am still working on it though and as the time goes by I can notice really good improvements (I just can't get the bpm straight sometimes so I end up with some 100s on longer streams).

Ijah wrote: 476529

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

where's ijah?

Yo.

Contributing to thread: Streaming isn't so much in the fingers as it is in the tricep (the muscle that drives the tendons), training that muscle in the usual ways helps you get faster and (kind of) helps stamina a little.
I tend to just tense up my arm and get those two fingers to 'shake' somewhat.

I find this too, after intense streaming sessions my fingers will never hurt, usually all around my shoulder however there's massive pain.

Actually the triceps have nothing to do with streaming speed. That would be the intrinsic lumbricals and the extensor digitorum. Streaming involves rapid extension and flexion of the metacarpophalangeal ts of your index and middle finger as well as some pronation/supination of the forearm. The triceps actually extend the entire forearm and don't really contribute.

tl;dr wrong muscle

Thank you, Doctor West.

Kanye West wrote: 442r17

Actually the triceps have nothing to do with streaming speed. That would be the intrinsic lumbricals and the extensor digitorum. Streaming involves rapid extension and flexion of the metacarpophalangeal ts of your index and middle finger as well as some pronation/supination of the forearm. The triceps actually extend the entire forearm and don't really contribute.

tl;dr wrong muscle

a tl;dr for three lines?
what's wrong with you guys.

big word r hard 2 read

Kanye West wrote: 442r17

Actually the triceps have nothing to do with streaming speed. That would be the intrinsic lumbricals and the extensor digitorum. Streaming involves rapid extension and flexion of the metacarpophalangeal ts of your index and middle finger as well as some pronation/supination of the forearm. The triceps actually extend the entire forearm and don't really contribute.

tl;dr wrong muscle

I wished I was as intelligent as you are

But that isn't intelligence, that's just knowledge

but knowledgable is such a hard word compared to intelligent

"I wish I'd know as much as you do" will do just fine.

Purlpo wrote: 5o1ei

Kanye West wrote: 442r17

Actually the triceps have nothing to do with streaming speed. That would be the intrinsic lumbricals and the extensor digitorum. Streaming involves rapid extension and flexion of the metacarpophalangeal ts of your index and middle finger as well as some pronation/supination of the forearm. The triceps actually extend the entire forearm and don't really contribute.

tl;dr wrong muscle

I wished I was as intelligent as you are

No you don't, I'm retarded. I just know big words

but i thought big words = intelligent

??

????

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

tl;dr I am Einstein

your iq greatly sures mine

no "how to improve at spinners (for mouse-s)"

Elit3noob wrote: 6n3q6x

no "how to improve at spinners (for mouse-s)"

Make really tiny circles around the center of the spinner.
It works really well that way~

Elit3noob wrote: 6n3q6x

no "how to improve at spinners (for mouse-s)"

spin small circles, gradually raise speed when you're confident in drawing scribbly circles

Or try to use lower sensitivity. Lower sensitivity helps you spinning in small circles a lot.

you guys sure about spinning with smaller circles? I tried it ages ago but I seem to spin much slower when I do small circles

Elit3noob wrote: 6n3q6x

you guys sure about spinning with smaller circles? I tried it ages ago but I seem to spin much slower when I do small circles

Once u get used to it, u will spin faster with smaller circles. Also, u have more control over ur mouse. With big circles the chance of missing a hitcircle right after the spinner is much higher because u have to find the cursor first..

However, it takes long to get fast at spinning.. When I started 6 months ago i spinned about 250 spm. Now It's around 380-420, sometimes more.
In the end, it's all practice.

spinning in small circles is not nnecessarily faster, but it gives you a lot more control over your cursor.
if you are spinning all over the screen and right after the spinner there are some jumps you first have to find back your cursor, then reposition, and then do the jumps. if you spin small circles you already know where the cursor is, you can do the repositioning during the spinning and dont have to worry about anything.

Elit3noob wrote: 6n3q6x

no "how to improve at spinners (for mouse-s)"

How to improve at mouse: copy kriers

It used to be "Copy taNa"

doesn't really matter where you spin in relation to the center as long as it is not random spamming motion. It just has to be decently close and accurate. most noobs just panic throw their cursor everywhere .

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

It used to be "Copy taNa"

I copied taNa

winber1 wrote: z3x6i

doesn't really matter where you spin in relation to the center as long as it is not random spamming motion. It just has to be decently close and accurate. most noobs just panic throw their cursor everywhere .

But Rucker's spinning was random spamming motion.

I mean he just tensed his hand until it started shaking and then he tried to spin at the same time.

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

winber1 wrote: z3x6i

doesn't really matter where you spin in relation to the center as long as it is not random spamming motion. It just has to be decently close and accurate. most noobs just panic throw their cursor everywhere .

But Rucker's spinning was random spamming motion.

I mean he just tensed his hand until it started shaking and then he tried to spin at the same time.

That's basically what I do too

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

winber1 wrote: z3x6i

doesn't really matter where you spin in relation to the center as long as it is not random spamming motion. It just has to be decently close and accurate. most noobs just panic throw their cursor everywhere .

But Rucker's spinning was random spamming motion.

I mean he just tensed his hand until it started shaking and then he tried to spin at the same time.

He played with a super small area too so yeah.

It really makes no difference what kind of sensitivity you have if you want to spin well. It's just that it's easier to know how well you're spinning in regards to the center of the spinner if the circles are small. I actually tried spinning with 5700 dpi and mouse accel on and max sensitivity in game, basically it was so ridiculously high that even doing smallest movement would make your mouse go to the edge of the screen, and even with those "squares" the spins were still just as good. :p

Thanks

The way I see it, small circles are better for when you have low DPI, but high DPI is really difficult to control with small motions like that, so to get the same result you need to do larger circles.

hardest part of the entire game is keeping the pen close to the damn tablet, if there was a tablet that never dc'd based on distance i'd be amazing

Unkind wrote: 3l3c3b

hardest part of the entire game is keeping the pen close to the damn tablet, if there was a tablet that never dc'd based on distance i'd be amazing

You can always drag, and it's okay if you accidentally tap too if you disable mouse clicks.

Sticky this kawaii uguu thread desu pls

A good trick to spin faster is using a tiny cursor (so you can do tiny circles without obscuring the center of the spinner). My spin speed improved considerably (from about 380 average to 420 average, about 460 when I put an effort in spinning) when I changed my cursor's size from about 51x51 pixels to 26x26 pixels (I use a tablet BTW, I don't know if that would help with a mouse), also, with enough muscle memory maybe you don't need visual at all to spin.

It's easier to spin in large circles with a mouse. I actually preferred to spin in medium or large-sized circles when I used mouse because it was more natural that way.

It's different for everyone, Kanye. My spins with tablet are waaaay larger than my mouse spins. (might be because of recent area change but still)

spinner size is 100% dependant on the area/dpi you are using for mouse and tablet...

I do the tiniest spins in osu!

Has anybody actually improved from this?

My accuracy improved by about 2% thanks to this.

kriers wrote: 726116

spinner size is 100% dependant on the area/dpi you are using for mouse and tablet...

not true, my spinner size changed but my dpi didnt. its also dependant on how good you are at controlling your cursor.

silmarilen wrote: 15bw

kriers wrote: 726116

spinner size is 100% dependant on the area/dpi you are using for mouse and tablet...

not true, my spinner size changed but my dpi didnt. its also dependant on how good you are at controlling your cursor.

given you spin the same, it really is.

buny wrote: 22l5t

Has anybody actually improved from this?

I improved really a lot, raised my accuracy, aiming and streaming skillz. All thanks to this advice:

buny wrote: 22l5t

Has anybody actually improved from this?

Yup, just keep practicing and practicing.

Oh I didn't know you improved by practicing.

buny wrote: 22l5t

Oh I didn't know you improved by practicing.

That's why I made this thread

practicing certain things made me worse at other things

jesse what do

halp

Aqo wrote: 2f6o2o

practicing certain things made me worse at other things

jesse what do

halp

Practice suicide so you can be better at life

EDIT: Changelog: -100% kawaii
+100% cool

Aren't there any tips regarding how to improve overall endurance and finger speed?

That would be most welcome as I personally cant accurately stream faster than 180 bpm

Zakdawg wrote: 6z6e4l

Aren't there any tips regarding how to improve overall endurance and finger speed?

That would be most welcome as I personally cant accurately stream faster than 180 bpm

Personally I'd say short fast streams help, but really it is just practice.

lift n strem 500bpm

sticky pls

Lift lift stream lift lift stream...

I'm not sure if what I'm gonna say happens only to me, but I believe other players might experience at least similar issues. Sorry for the wall of text down below.


Basically, I started out as a mouse only . It was the most intuitive thing at that time and easier than trying to use the keyboard + mouse. Then I ran into a big problem - my mouse grip vs "moving triplets" and streams. When I played mouse only, I noticed that I "lock" my mouse movement when I click for coordination and stability - this made triplets and streams super difficult. I lose stability and my cursor ends up shaking too much if I don't lock my mouse position because I'm a claw grip/fingertip kind of player. I'm pretty sure a palm grip would "solve" this issue, but that's out of the question at this point. I wanted to know out of curiosity though - are there ANY really high level mouse only claw grip players who do streams without problems?

This is the reason I decided to switch to mouse + keyboard. Triplets are pretty easy to do now. Yeah, I got better, so even if I play without a keyboard it's not too hard anymore, but it's still a bit tricky when it's not a static triplet. Streaming is way easier too. However, I found out I have a new issue - jumps.

when I said I "lock" my mouse position when I only use my mouse? I've recently come to realize that this makes sick jumps much easier to do. It's much harder to coordinate mouse + keyboard when doing jumps, like if I miss a single note I usually lose track the pattern (and my accuracy is just worse this way too). It's like my mouse moves in a different way if I do jumps with mouse only... a better way. I love to play some insanely hard songs on slow... when playing airman it took me quite a while to get my jumps with mouse + keyboard close to the level of my jumps with mouse only. And I'd never been able to get to the first break in the big black on slow because of those sick jumps, but yesterday I noticed that I actually COULD get to that part if I used my mouse button to do the jumps. My "jumping accuracy" feels smoother this way. Is this by any means normal?

My problem is that a hybrid technique like this might make things confusing because I always need to decide how to play certain parts. I'd rather have a reliable style than having to worry about how to practice and having a less consistent technique. But I'm afraid my keyboard + mouse jumps might not be able to catch up with my mouse only jumps... I wonder if I should keep on practicing keyboard + mouse exclusively, maybe try to retrain my muscle memory for jumps in a way or something... Any thoughts or similar experiences? Any words of encouragement towards either style are appreciated.


TLDR - Moving triplets and streaming feel harder with a mouse only claw grip / fingertip style, but sick jumps feel harder with keyboard + mouse. Not sure if I should work on a hybrid technique or keep practicing sick jumps with keyboard + mouse.

FlameseeK wrote: 3x3i1z

I'm not sure if what I'm gonna say happens only to me, but I believe other players might experience at least similar issues. Sorry for the wall of text down below.


Basically, I started out as a mouse only . It was the most intuitive thing at that time and easier than trying to use the keyboard + mouse. Then I ran into a big problem - my mouse grip vs "moving triplets" and streams. When I played mouse only, I noticed that I "lock" my mouse movement when I click for coordination and stability - this made triplets and streams super difficult. I lose stability and my cursor ends up shaking too much if I don't lock my mouse position because I'm a claw grip/fingertip kind of player. I'm pretty sure a palm grip would "solve" this issue, but that's out of the question at this point. I wanted to know out of curiosity though - are there ANY really high level mouse only claw grip players who do streams without problems?

This is the reason I decided to switch to mouse + keyboard. Triplets are pretty easy to do now. Yeah, I got better, so even if I play without a keyboard it's not too hard anymore, but it's still a bit tricky when it's not a static triplet. Streaming is way easier too. However, I found out I have a new issue - jumps.

when I said I "lock" my mouse position when I only use my mouse? I've recently come to realize that this makes sick jumps much easier to do. It's much harder to coordinate mouse + keyboard when doing jumps, like if I miss a single note I usually lose track the pattern (and my accuracy is just worse this way too). It's like my mouse moves in a different way if I do jumps with mouse only... a better way. I love to play some insanely hard songs on slow... when playing airman it took me quite a while to get my jumps with mouse + keyboard close to the level of my jumps with mouse only. And I'd never been able to get to the first break in the big black on slow because of those sick jumps, but yesterday I noticed that I actually COULD get to that part if I used my mouse button to do the jumps. My "jumping accuracy" feels smoother this way. Is this by any means normal?

My problem is that a hybrid technique like this might make things confusing because I always need to decide how to play certain parts. I'd rather have a reliable style than having to worry about how to practice and having a less consistent technique. But I'm afraid my keyboard + mouse jumps might not be able to catch up with my mouse only jumps... I wonder if I should keep on practicing keyboard + mouse exclusively, maybe try to retrain my muscle memory for jumps in a way or something... Any thoughts or similar experiences? Any words of encouragement towards either style are appreciated.


TLDR - Moving triplets and streaming feel harder with a mouse only claw grip / fingertip style, but sick jumps feel harder with keyboard + mouse. Not sure if I should work on a hybrid technique or keep practicing sick jumps with keyboard + mouse.

You could just use your keyboard for streaming only and your mouse for everything else...

I don't regret switching to keyboard + mouse,the only thing that is truly harder as of now is jumps. The weird thing is, I should be doing jumps just as well as I do without the keyboard by now since I made this switch quite a while ago. I'd say more than 50% of the time I've spent playing osu so far has been with a keyboard to say the least. That's what baffles me.

Is this a natural disadvantage of using the keyboard? I'd like to hear what kind of experience other players have with this. It's kind of frustrating to have practiced more with the keyboard and still do worse jumps.

EDIT: As for having a hybrid technique, there are some really crazy songs out there and I'm afraid it will mess things up in the future.

FlameseeK wrote: 3x3i1z

I don't regret switching to keyboard + mouse,the only thing that is truly harder as of now is jumps. The weird thing is, I should be doing jumps just as well as I do without the keyboard by now since I made this switch quite a while ago. I'd say more than 50% of the time I've spent playing osu so far has been with a keyboard to say the least. That's what baffles me.

Is this a natural disadvantage of using the keyboard? I'd like to hear what kind of experience other players have with this. It's kind of frustrating to have practiced more with the keyboard and still do worse jumps.

EDIT: As for having a hybrid technique, there are some really crazy songs out there and I'm afraid it will mess things up in the future.

I think the reason why you feel that it's easier to do jumps with mouse button is because of extra surface friction. Surface friction is a function of normal force applied to the surface, ie the more down force you apply to the mouse the larger the frictional force you experience. The down force resulting from your fingers pushing mouse downwards (also having a firmer mouse grip thereby applying extra down force) increases friction when you push the button and acts as a break when you approach a note.

When you switch to pure keyboard, you don't need to apply as much down force (since you don't have to push the mouse buttons anymore) and hence you've lost that extra friction as "breaks." Are you overshooting beats at the moment?

Unfortunately I'm only a low ranked 4-digit player so I can't give you any real advice on how to get better at keyboard. Maybe adapting your mouse grip is the key to getting that "break" back?

enquire wrote: 203a1k

FlameseeK wrote: 3x3i1z

I'm not sure if what I'm gonna say happens only to me, but I believe other players might experience at least similar issues. Sorry for the wall of text down below.


Basically, I started out as a mouse only . It was the most intuitive thing at that time and easier than trying to use the keyboard + mouse. Then I ran into a big problem - my mouse grip vs "moving triplets" and streams. When I played mouse only, I noticed that I "lock" my mouse movement when I click for coordination and stability - this made triplets and streams super difficult. I lose stability and my cursor ends up shaking too much if I don't lock my mouse position because I'm a claw grip/fingertip kind of player. I'm pretty sure a palm grip would "solve" this issue, but that's out of the question at this point. I wanted to know out of curiosity though - are there ANY really high level mouse only claw grip players who do streams without problems?

This is the reason I decided to switch to mouse + keyboard. Triplets are pretty easy to do now. Yeah, I got better, so even if I play without a keyboard it's not too hard anymore, but it's still a bit tricky when it's not a static triplet. Streaming is way easier too. However, I found out I have a new issue - jumps.

when I said I "lock" my mouse position when I only use my mouse? I've recently come to realize that this makes sick jumps much easier to do. It's much harder to coordinate mouse + keyboard when doing jumps, like if I miss a single note I usually lose track the pattern (and my accuracy is just worse this way too). It's like my mouse moves in a different way if I do jumps with mouse only... a better way. I love to play some insanely hard songs on slow... when playing airman it took me quite a while to get my jumps with mouse + keyboard close to the level of my jumps with mouse only. And I'd never been able to get to the first break in the big black on slow because of those sick jumps, but yesterday I noticed that I actually COULD get to that part if I used my mouse button to do the jumps. My "jumping accuracy" feels smoother this way. Is this by any means normal?

My problem is that a hybrid technique like this might make things confusing because I always need to decide how to play certain parts. I'd rather have a reliable style than having to worry about how to practice and having a less consistent technique. But I'm afraid my keyboard + mouse jumps might not be able to catch up with my mouse only jumps... I wonder if I should keep on practicing keyboard + mouse exclusively, maybe try to retrain my muscle memory for jumps in a way or something... Any thoughts or similar experiences? Any words of encouragement towards either style are appreciated.


TLDR - Moving triplets and streaming feel harder with a mouse only claw grip / fingertip style, but sick jumps feel harder with keyboard + mouse. Not sure if I should work on a hybrid technique or keep practicing sick jumps with keyboard + mouse.

You could just use your keyboard for streaming only and your mouse for everything else...

Tablet ?

I think this thread should be stickied, we really do get a thread a day about "how can I improve at X".

remove anything that's not serious or an inside joke in it and I think it has a good chance of getting stickied

kriers wrote: 726116

remove anything that's not serious or an inside joke in it and I think it has a good chance of getting stickied

I think I pretty much did.

Down to actually streaming. I like to split streams into two categories, long and fast (sexual joke goes here).

Not quite yet ;p

kriers wrote: 726116

remove anything that's not serious or an inside joke in it and I think it has a good chance of getting stickied

kriers wrote: 726116

Down to actually streaming. I like to split streams into two categories, long and fast (sexual joke goes here).

Not quite yet ;p

It is sticky




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