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surrounded by echoes of an annoying-but-poisonously-wistful inescapable past, i didnt want to literally re-live this
concede sincere identity or sow pointless relational self-sabotage
vaguely/partially false dichotomy but the fickle dramatized impression of a self-destructive ultimatum remains when i do happen to value those things
i guess it gives more dream-material to play with or re-examine, that could be fun
i still the one with that cult leader where he zip-collared me (idk how to describe the details of how this mechanically worked) and it triggered and its metal wiry zipper-prongs bore deep into me while crushing my trachea because i didnt give a good enough devotee performance even though dreamself had been fawning grossly hard
it was funny and i kinda fixated on him with great sincerity (i also assume the thin wispy pale mysterious archetype won some points), and i probably attached to something about my relationship with that oppressive atmosphere and these people in these neat little places (bathroom-like poolrooms-like mazes, concrete halls and ambiguous walls of aquarium-tank glass)... other fictional cultists that resided throughout these places include a scientist with a clipboard and some indistinct figures at the periphery, indifferent to the leader walking in with this soon-to-be-collared mess of a non-person following behind, that response from them seemed quite funny
did not appreciate the pain and suffocation in the moment but savory dream-thrills tended to retroactively make up for things even during more real consequences (sudden and momentary violent muscle spasms, or sore locked-down muscle paralysis where it takes immense effort to yank a limb to life)
but when its so intoxicating idrk how to respond but to be fascinated
i get some of this sense of anticipatory intoxication from these recent real-life contexts
not remotely the same but the contexts and subsequent feelings i gather from them draw a lot of associations in common
concede sincere identity or sow pointless relational self-sabotage
vaguely/partially false dichotomy but the fickle dramatized impression of a self-destructive ultimatum remains when i do happen to value those things
i guess it gives more dream-material to play with or re-examine, that could be fun
i still the one with that cult leader where he zip-collared me (idk how to describe the details of how this mechanically worked) and it triggered and its metal wiry zipper-prongs bore deep into me while crushing my trachea because i didnt give a good enough devotee performance even though dreamself had been fawning grossly hard
it was funny and i kinda fixated on him with great sincerity (i also assume the thin wispy pale mysterious archetype won some points), and i probably attached to something about my relationship with that oppressive atmosphere and these people in these neat little places (bathroom-like poolrooms-like mazes, concrete halls and ambiguous walls of aquarium-tank glass)... other fictional cultists that resided throughout these places include a scientist with a clipboard and some indistinct figures at the periphery, indifferent to the leader walking in with this soon-to-be-collared mess of a non-person following behind, that response from them seemed quite funny
did not appreciate the pain and suffocation in the moment but savory dream-thrills tended to retroactively make up for things even during more real consequences (sudden and momentary violent muscle spasms, or sore locked-down muscle paralysis where it takes immense effort to yank a limb to life)
but when its so intoxicating idrk how to respond but to be fascinated
i get some of this sense of anticipatory intoxication from these recent real-life contexts
not remotely the same but the contexts and subsequent feelings i gather from them draw a lot of associations in common
i just want a mate...
you just Want,, To Mate??!?
i just want a mate!!
well you're not Mating with Me, sunshine!
...
here birdie birdie !! hiiii im here :)
dying in dismalland
o, fledgling flock of jaded doves...
let not the seed of sin sour your souls but may you soar with the sovereign sun who sets your flight alight through shining skies ^-^
you just Want,, To Mate??!?
i just want a mate!!
well you're not Mating with Me, sunshine!
...
here birdie birdie !! hiiii im here :)
dying in dismalland
o, fledgling flock of jaded doves...
let not the seed of sin sour your souls but may you soar with the sovereign sun who sets your flight alight through shining skies ^-^
no ive had heart palpitations for a couple years now. i went to the ER and they had me do a bunch of tests. when I squat, tie my shoes, anything where my legs are to my chest, my heart rate and blood pressure skyrocket. saw it go from 70 (resting) to 170 bpm (just after my squat) and had a couple nurses monitor me for a couple hours. aside from that it flutters every now and then. my bp is usually high 140/110 or something, and during the squat its like 170/126 (stroke range damn near)abraker wrote: 6w3t1z
are you a cyborg?IAMACROBA wrote: d5wk
back from the hopital!! i got this cool machine strapped to my chest
yeah, i have a holter monitor on my chest for the next week and i have a cardiologist referral soon. sorry for the info dump, not looking for sympathy, just giving context.
edit, i was officially diagnosed with palpitations, which is a blanket term. however there was talk that they (big doctor) think its POTS. which is uncommon in men, but still possible.
:< wishing a smooth and informative cardiologist visit for you
...
i dont have a lot to say and it bothers me, words dont really Happen lately unless its for myself although this isnt quite working so often either
exhausted or empathy-drained or selfish or something else, im not really well-positioned to understand or suggest anything accurately anymore
i can only hope things will be well and be present when youre here :')
...
thinking about selfishness actually
im not sure what my thoughts on this are, both in the contexts of other people and in regard to myself... im not sure if im tired/uncomfortable with it or not, or what the source of it necessarily is, whether intrinsic/moral or more of consequentialist thing that might or might not happen to also be a moral-thing-in-a-different-way or if it's more of an internalized-standard thing or
but in general im not sure im any good at telling what i am, and i seem prone to being a little narrow-minded in defining myself as if im definitively anything in particular just because i find vague impressions of that thing represented through life or my thoughts/memories or my emotions at a given time
very imbalanced kind of person, probably
selfish in many ways (self-absorption? only really tending to cultivate and focus attention toward myself and really quite deeply neglecting anyone else. pre-occupied with inward suspicions that probably turn out to be very unremarkable/normative in hindsight), "selfless" (funny) in some others where i seem to "care" for people in a probably-mundane way that i cant quite define for myself at the moment-- maybe a disionate compulsion (so long as it is easy enough to accomplish or is sincerely compatible with my thinking/feeling in a given moment), as well as idealist notions without a lot of motivation or practice or principle beyond it just appearing pleasant to me
i wonder what makes me up, in whatever ways that i've seemed to live
so much cowardice
so much banal hypocrisy (? unsure what i meant in typing that, maybe im subconsciously referring to a thing or maybe im typing it uncritically and assuming it to be applicable without really testing it or "knowing" it to be true in any particularly concrete sense)
so "human"
...
i dont have a lot to say and it bothers me, words dont really Happen lately unless its for myself although this isnt quite working so often either
exhausted or empathy-drained or selfish or something else, im not really well-positioned to understand or suggest anything accurately anymore
i can only hope things will be well and be present when youre here :')
...
thinking about selfishness actually
im not sure what my thoughts on this are, both in the contexts of other people and in regard to myself... im not sure if im tired/uncomfortable with it or not, or what the source of it necessarily is, whether intrinsic/moral or more of consequentialist thing that might or might not happen to also be a moral-thing-in-a-different-way or if it's more of an internalized-standard thing or
but in general im not sure im any good at telling what i am, and i seem prone to being a little narrow-minded in defining myself as if im definitively anything in particular just because i find vague impressions of that thing represented through life or my thoughts/memories or my emotions at a given time
very imbalanced kind of person, probably
selfish in many ways (self-absorption? only really tending to cultivate and focus attention toward myself and really quite deeply neglecting anyone else. pre-occupied with inward suspicions that probably turn out to be very unremarkable/normative in hindsight), "selfless" (funny) in some others where i seem to "care" for people in a probably-mundane way that i cant quite define for myself at the moment-- maybe a disionate compulsion (so long as it is easy enough to accomplish or is sincerely compatible with my thinking/feeling in a given moment), as well as idealist notions without a lot of motivation or practice or principle beyond it just appearing pleasant to me
i wonder what makes me up, in whatever ways that i've seemed to live
so much cowardice
so much banal hypocrisy (? unsure what i meant in typing that, maybe im subconsciously referring to a thing or maybe im typing it uncritically and assuming it to be applicable without really testing it or "knowing" it to be true in any particularly concrete sense)
so "human"
Penguin wrote: 2l1d1p
I would love to find out why if you’re comfortable doing so 🙂synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
you have no idea how fucking funny it is to say that to me specificallyPenguin wrote: 2l1d1p
Hope you find yourself soon.synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
dissociation...
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abraker-san i think the bot fucked up
It’s actually insane how much I feel like I can empathize with this. I don’t really know if we are on the exact same understanding and have the exact same experience when it comes to all that you said, or if it’s me drawing parallels between my lived experience and what you said, thinking it sounds similar enough or something.Achromalia wrote: 1ts28
achros texti dont have a lot to say and it bothers me, words dont really Happen lately unless its for myself although this isnt quite working so often either
exhausted or empathy-drained or selfish or something else, im not really well-positioned to understand or suggest anything accurately anymore
i can only hope things will be well and be present when youre here :')
...
thinking about selfishness actually
im not sure what my thoughts on this are, both in the contexts of other people and in regard to myself... im not sure if im tired/uncomfortable with it or not, or what the source of it necessarily is, whether intrinsic/moral or more of consequentialist thing that might or might not happen to also be a moral-thing-in-a-different-way or if it's more of an internalized-standard thing or
but in general im not sure im any good at telling what i am, and i seem prone to being a little narrow-minded in defining myself as if im definitively anything in particular just because i find vague impressions of that thing represented through life or my thoughts/memories or my emotions at a given time
very imbalanced kind of person, probably
selfish in many ways (self-absorption? only really tending to cultivate and focus attention toward myself and really quite deeply neglecting anyone else. pre-occupied with inward suspicions that probably turn out to be very unremarkable/normative in hindsight), "selfless" (funny) in some others where i seem to "care" for people in a probably-mundane way that i cant quite define for myself at the moment-- maybe a disionate compulsion (so long as it is easy enough to accomplish or is sincerely compatible with my thinking/feeling in a given moment), as well as idealist notions without a lot of motivation or practice or principle beyond it just appearing pleasant to me
i wonder what makes me up, in whatever ways that i've seemed to live
so much cowardice
so much banal hypocrisy (? unsure what i meant in typing that, maybe im subconsciously referring to a thing or maybe im typing it uncritically and assuming it to be applicable without really testing it or "knowing" it to be true in any particularly concrete sense)
so "human"
What I have noticed is that my brain really likes to focus on the negative things in life. And I believe that it is a natural biological phenomenon that occurs so that we are more likely to notice the negative things and fix them. This is why physical pain exists after all. Your body sends your brain a signal so that you do not cause yourself irreversible damage. It makes sense that mental pain / anguish would be similar.
I’ve been trying to be more aware and cognizant of any mental anguish that is happening to myself at any given moment. If I notice that I am thinking about negative aspects of my life or myself, I let myself really think about those things. Even if it’s painful, I think it’s good to experience those negative emotions so that I am more likely to fix whatever is the cause of said issues.
The next problem that arises is my problem solving capabilities. Just because I am aware of an issue, does not mean that I know what the cause is and how to fix it. The more I actively let myself think, the better I get at recognizing my issues and learning how to solve them.
As for why I brought this up in the first place, it’s because you said you don’t know why you’re unable to empathize or think about others, and you can only think of yourself. I believe that if I were in your shoes, it would be due to the fact that there is some deep internal mental issue that I haven’t come to recognize yet, and my brain is trying to focus on myself only because it is trying to fix said issue.
Idk if I explained myself properly, but I really hope you found my gibberish somewhat digestible, Achro. Hope you’re doing well buddy.
Also, I’ve been reading this study recently and I find it to be super fascinating: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8771390/
It’s about the correlation between mood and memory.
:D
ok i say that a lot with lots of people but i guess in this sense it just seems like there would be interesting things to gather. i think i thought this as a result of the study and then assuming something implicit from that even when it is so funnily arbitrarily-decided from what i imagine is a mixture of recent interests and unintended associations
now that i vaguely identified a thing i didnt identify, im not sure how i would respond exactly to what you feel/gather from this since im not you in order to know-- but i would assume we're not sharing an identical experience, but at the same time we may have had some shared pattern in ruminating, both about our own rumination and any consequent subjects that became relevant to us during that process, and probably critique what we see
...oh, in re-reading i only now realize i completely missed you do also more-or-less imagine it could be the pattern-recognition thing among other possibilities;; oops but yes probably :> it's very hard in general to suggest/trust that any two people's experiences are quite that similar beyond some shared intersections/overlaps in patterns/themes
your thoughts seem very digestible so far i think!! not that im really an accurate judge of whether i would in fact understand fully and accurately the depth of what you mean to communicate or what the background of it is (and we would probably ultimately just try to hold an implicit assumption that we do or don't understand, for the sake of fluid conversational motion or something)... and i appreciate them a lot maybe (im not feeling a lot about them right Now but i seem to still have sentimentality toward them in a more distantly cognitive way, or at least i could probably guess something like that)
like in fixating on negative conditions/impressions, i do imagine "self-absorption" can easily be explained as a pattern of pre-occupations held with the purpose of "fixing the cause of said issues" as noted, but--
why am i talking like this thats so weird im not trying to appear formal or,, i mean;; i do wonder why i perceived that as objectionable, or even notable to begin with... likely because it isnt quite what i wanted from myself but happens to vaguely reflect part of how i am regardless even if its hard to keep from doubting my sincerity or from assuming im performing something. also partly internalized from different ways i seem to being perceived, as well as nonspecific things i impressionistically observe about people perceiving each other in general
what
that wasnt why it was weird though? hmmn, i sure do love accidentally substituting things for very different things
--ah, i keep distracting myself
i don't where i wanted to go :<
oh the study, i didnt read it yet oops
so much i want to do... so much i seem to refuse to prioritize over any other thing, no main point or purpose im willing to agree (with myself) to hold onto and efficiently address first and foremost. i sort of just wander. i recently was given a thing that "introduced" the general concepts of focus being either ively attracted or actively directed, and it sorta addressed some other things that im trying to because theyre presumably relevant and important to what i meant to communicate, but now i've lost my own point
but the content itself wouldve probably demonstrated the irony in my forgetting what i meant, since it addressed memory/attention and distraction and motivation/purpose and task-distribution and information-paralysis and physiological distractions and environmental distractions and so on
...
it is really nice to read from you again :)
although, in the sense of guilt/regret for a past self i didnt want to be and by names/personas i didnt/dont really want to carry, i do sort of feel awkward about being ed by people who i still seem to believe are significant to me-- because those same people happen to know me mainly by who i was at the time when that friendship/acquantanceship seemed to be established. it doesnt sour the fondness so much as it makes me regret that i cant quite exclusively (or even inclusively, i guess) be the kinds of "me" i would hope to be when there is so much historical continuity and consequence that almost "forces" me to be as i am at a given moment and in a given context-- depending on the person, place, time, mood, and so on
i would probably have hoped for many interchangeable and modular selves i could readily be, but i also probably would not have hoped for quite "the selves" (not really, i suppose) that i've been in recent/present reality... so many "ideal selves" that are mostly similar but still sometimes compartmentalized into separate concentrations
i still think of those replica-collectives sometimes. i still think of being that host-occupying experiential camera-virus thing where i see and feel and absorb people's experiences through their own senses and then extract/collect/compile them for myself. and even then i still think of simply a singular ideal "me", one i could never have been at any point of my real life's continuity, by physiological/psychological/experiential/material/relational happenstance, and one i could never realistically hope to emulate in any meaningfully satisfying way without mostly just compartmentalizing myself more and trying to represent my "selves" through art
i want to ively hitch a ride on so many human experiences, i speak/think of appreciating them all the while hardly storing them or recollecting them, let alone even attempting to experience them meaningfully as my own self, partly because i really do seem awful at holding onto sensory/experiential information and bringing it back to something reproducible
...urgh
i type so much, i want so deeply to be substantively heard and met with gratifying exploration/examination of self. if only it were so mutually available, if only i could give quite as much to someone in return And happen to genuinely understand the composition of who they are and how they work so that i might best be able to aid them and reflect who they presumably are back to themselves
...tangential on-ramp onto the same thing earlier, but i do wonder if my presumable selfishness, even if some of it could be motivated by troubleshooting, is more broadly and substantively applicable than that
i don't know where else i want to go, i kind of forget and make up a direction again and then lose myself again, like wandering over the surface of this mass of thoughts/impressions in hopes of gathering enough of an inferable map of what i really want to address, but mostly just reactively running in funky shapes according to whatever seemed tangentially relevant
i would love to be a viewer of your life from within that self-experience (as opposed to being retold/recollected) and how you digested your experiences/thoughtsPenguin wrote: 2l1d1p
"It’s actually insane how much I feel like I can empathize with this."I don’t really know if we are on the exact same understanding and have the exact same experience when it comes to all that you said, or if it’s me drawing parallels between my lived experience and what you said, thinking it sounds similar enough or something.
What I have noticed is that my brain really likes to focus on the negative things in life. And I believe that it is a natural biological phenomenon that occurs so that we are more likely to notice the negative things and fix them. This is why physical pain exists after all. Your body sends your brain a signal so that you do not cause yourself irreversible damage. It makes sense that mental pain / anguish would be similar.
I’ve been trying to be more aware and cognizant of any mental anguish that is happening to myself at any given moment. If I notice that I am thinking about negative aspects of my life or myself, I let myself really think about those things. Even if it’s painful, I think it’s good to experience those negative emotions so that I am more likely to fix whatever is the cause of said issues.
The next problem that arises is my problem solving capabilities. Just because I am aware of an issue, does not mean that I know what the cause is and how to fix it. The more I actively let myself think, the better I get at recognizing my issues and learning how to solve them.
As for why I brought this up in the first place, it’s because you said you don’t know why you’re unable to empathize or think about others, and you can only think of yourself. I believe that if I were in your shoes, it would be due to the fact that there is some deep internal mental issue that I haven’t come to recognize yet, and my brain is trying to focus on myself only because it is trying to fix said issue.
Idk if I explained myself properly, but I really hope you found my gibberish somewhat digestible, Achro. Hope you’re doing well buddy.
Also, I’ve been reading this study recently and I find it to be super fascinating: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8771390/
It’s about the correlation between mood and memory.
ok i say that a lot with lots of people but i guess in this sense it just seems like there would be interesting things to gather. i think i thought this as a result of the study and then assuming something implicit from that even when it is so funnily arbitrarily-decided from what i imagine is a mixture of recent interests and unintended associations
now that i vaguely identified a thing i didnt identify, im not sure how i would respond exactly to what you feel/gather from this since im not you in order to know-- but i would assume we're not sharing an identical experience, but at the same time we may have had some shared pattern in ruminating, both about our own rumination and any consequent subjects that became relevant to us during that process, and probably critique what we see
...oh, in re-reading i only now realize i completely missed you do also more-or-less imagine it could be the pattern-recognition thing among other possibilities;; oops but yes probably :> it's very hard in general to suggest/trust that any two people's experiences are quite that similar beyond some shared intersections/overlaps in patterns/themes
your thoughts seem very digestible so far i think!! not that im really an accurate judge of whether i would in fact understand fully and accurately the depth of what you mean to communicate or what the background of it is (and we would probably ultimately just try to hold an implicit assumption that we do or don't understand, for the sake of fluid conversational motion or something)... and i appreciate them a lot maybe (im not feeling a lot about them right Now but i seem to still have sentimentality toward them in a more distantly cognitive way, or at least i could probably guess something like that)
like in fixating on negative conditions/impressions, i do imagine "self-absorption" can easily be explained as a pattern of pre-occupations held with the purpose of "fixing the cause of said issues" as noted, but--
why am i talking like this thats so weird im not trying to appear formal or,, i mean;; i do wonder why i perceived that as objectionable, or even notable to begin with... likely because it isnt quite what i wanted from myself but happens to vaguely reflect part of how i am regardless even if its hard to keep from doubting my sincerity or from assuming im performing something. also partly internalized from different ways i seem to being perceived, as well as nonspecific things i impressionistically observe about people perceiving each other in general
what
that wasnt why it was weird though? hmmn, i sure do love accidentally substituting things for very different things
--ah, i keep distracting myself
i don't where i wanted to go :<
oh the study, i didnt read it yet oops
so much i want to do... so much i seem to refuse to prioritize over any other thing, no main point or purpose im willing to agree (with myself) to hold onto and efficiently address first and foremost. i sort of just wander. i recently was given a thing that "introduced" the general concepts of focus being either ively attracted or actively directed, and it sorta addressed some other things that im trying to because theyre presumably relevant and important to what i meant to communicate, but now i've lost my own point
but the content itself wouldve probably demonstrated the irony in my forgetting what i meant, since it addressed memory/attention and distraction and motivation/purpose and task-distribution and information-paralysis and physiological distractions and environmental distractions and so on
...
it is really nice to read from you again :)
although, in the sense of guilt/regret for a past self i didnt want to be and by names/personas i didnt/dont really want to carry, i do sort of feel awkward about being ed by people who i still seem to believe are significant to me-- because those same people happen to know me mainly by who i was at the time when that friendship/acquantanceship seemed to be established. it doesnt sour the fondness so much as it makes me regret that i cant quite exclusively (or even inclusively, i guess) be the kinds of "me" i would hope to be when there is so much historical continuity and consequence that almost "forces" me to be as i am at a given moment and in a given context-- depending on the person, place, time, mood, and so on
i would probably have hoped for many interchangeable and modular selves i could readily be, but i also probably would not have hoped for quite "the selves" (not really, i suppose) that i've been in recent/present reality... so many "ideal selves" that are mostly similar but still sometimes compartmentalized into separate concentrations
i still think of those replica-collectives sometimes. i still think of being that host-occupying experiential camera-virus thing where i see and feel and absorb people's experiences through their own senses and then extract/collect/compile them for myself. and even then i still think of simply a singular ideal "me", one i could never have been at any point of my real life's continuity, by physiological/psychological/experiential/material/relational happenstance, and one i could never realistically hope to emulate in any meaningfully satisfying way without mostly just compartmentalizing myself more and trying to represent my "selves" through art
i want to ively hitch a ride on so many human experiences, i speak/think of appreciating them all the while hardly storing them or recollecting them, let alone even attempting to experience them meaningfully as my own self, partly because i really do seem awful at holding onto sensory/experiential information and bringing it back to something reproducible
...urgh
i type so much, i want so deeply to be substantively heard and met with gratifying exploration/examination of self. if only it were so mutually available, if only i could give quite as much to someone in return And happen to genuinely understand the composition of who they are and how they work so that i might best be able to aid them and reflect who they presumably are back to themselves
...tangential on-ramp onto the same thing earlier, but i do wonder if my presumable selfishness, even if some of it could be motivated by troubleshooting, is more broadly and substantively applicable than that
i don't know where else i want to go, i kind of forget and make up a direction again and then lose myself again, like wandering over the surface of this mass of thoughts/impressions in hopes of gathering enough of an inferable map of what i really want to address, but mostly just reactively running in funky shapes according to whatever seemed tangentially relevant
beholding this, appreciating this in a sensesynthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
Penguin wrote: 2l1d1p
I would love to find out why if you’re comfortable doing so 🙂synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
you have no idea how fucking funny it is to say that to me specificallyPenguin wrote: 2l1d1p
Hope you find yourself soon.synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
dissociation...
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i should clarify: the dissociation is about having no cohesive self... but the problem isn't that there isn't enough, it's that there's too much, which makes it ironic to try to "find myself" when doing so returns several results (and also a lot of information i cannot parse)synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
Penguin wrote: 2l1d1p
I would love to find out why if you’re comfortable doing so 🙂synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
you have no idea how fucking funny it is to say that to me specificallyPenguin wrote: 2l1d1p
Hope you find yourself soon.synthwavesquid wrote: 333y57
dissociation...
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i.e. "easier said than done"
i.e. "my brain is dangerously good at structuring itself to make my problems as unapproachable as possible while still letting them affect me"
Achromalia wrote: 1ts28
achro texti would love to be a viewer of your life from within that self-experience (as opposed to being retold/recollected) and how you digested your experiences/thoughts
ok i say that a lot with lots of people but i guess in this sense it just seems like there would be interesting things to gather. i think i thought this as a result of the study and then assuming something implicit from that even when it is so funnily arbitrarily-decided from what i imagine is a mixture of recent interests and unintended associations
now that i vaguely identified a thing i didnt identify, im not sure how i would respond exactly to what you feel/gather from this since im not you in order to know-- but i would assume we're not sharing an identical experience, but at the same time we may have had some shared pattern in ruminating, both about our own rumination and any consequent subjects that became relevant to us during that process, and probably critique what we see
...oh, in re-reading i only now realize i completely missed you do also more-or-less imagine it could be the pattern-recognition thing among other possibilities;; oops but yes probably :> it's very hard in general to suggest/trust that any two people's experiences are quite that similar beyond some shared intersections/overlaps in patterns/themes
your thoughts seem very digestible so far i think!! not that im really an accurate judge of whether i would in fact understand fully and accurately the depth of what you mean to communicate or what the background of it is (and we would probably ultimately just try to hold an implicit assumption that we do or don't understand, for the sake of fluid conversational motion or something)... and i appreciate them a lot maybe (im not feeling a lot about them right Now but i seem to still have sentimentality toward them in a more distantly cognitive way, or at least i could probably guess something like that)
like in fixating on negative conditions/impressions, i do imagine "self-absorption" can easily be explained as a pattern of pre-occupations held with the purpose of "fixing the cause of said issues" as noted, but--
why am i talking like this thats so weird im not trying to appear formal or,, i mean;; i do wonder why i perceived that as objectionable, or even notable to begin with... likely because it isnt quite what i wanted from myself but happens to vaguely reflect part of how i am regardless even if its hard to keep from doubting my sincerity or from assuming im performing something. also partly internalized from different ways i seem to being perceived, as well as nonspecific things i impressionistically observe about people perceiving each other in general
what
that wasnt why it was weird though? hmmn, i sure do love accidentally substituting things for very different things
--ah, i keep distracting myself
i don't where i wanted to go :<
oh the study, i didnt read it yet oops
so much i want to do... so much i seem to refuse to prioritize over any other thing, no main point or purpose im willing to agree (with myself) to hold onto and efficiently address first and foremost. i sort of just wander. i recently was given a thing that "introduced" the general concepts of focus being either ively attracted or actively directed, and it sorta addressed some other things that im trying to because theyre presumably relevant and important to what i meant to communicate, but now i've lost my own point
but the content itself wouldve probably demonstrated the irony in my forgetting what i meant, since it addressed memory/attention and distraction and motivation/purpose and task-distribution and information-paralysis and physiological distractions and environmental distractions and so on
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it is really nice to read from you again :)
although, in the sense of guilt/regret for a past self i didnt want to be and by names/personas i didnt/dont really want to carry, i do sort of feel awkward about being ed by people who i still seem to believe are significant to me-- because those same people happen to know me mainly by who i was at the time when that friendship/acquantanceship seemed to be established. it doesnt sour the fondness so much as it makes me regret that i cant quite exclusively (or even inclusively, i guess) be the kinds of "me" i would hope to be when there is so much historical continuity and consequence that almost "forces" me to be as i am at a given moment and in a given context-- depending on the person, place, time, mood, and so on
i would probably have hoped for many interchangeable and modular selves i could readily be, but i also probably would not have hoped for quite "the selves" (not really, i suppose) that i've been in recent/present reality... so many "ideal selves" that are mostly similar but still sometimes compartmentalized into separate concentrations
i still think of those replica-collectives sometimes. i still think of being that host-occupying experiential camera-virus thing where i see and feel and absorb people's experiences through their own senses and then extract/collect/compile them for myself. and even then i still think of simply a singular ideal "me", one i could never have been at any point of my real life's continuity, by physiological/psychological/experiential/material/relational happenstance, and one i could never realistically hope to emulate in any meaningfully satisfying way without mostly just compartmentalizing myself more and trying to represent my "selves" through art
i want to ively hitch a ride on so many human experiences, i speak/think of appreciating them all the while hardly storing them or recollecting them, let alone even attempting to experience them meaningfully as my own self, partly because i really do seem awful at holding onto sensory/experiential information and bringing it back to something reproducible
...urgh
i type so much, i want so deeply to be substantively heard and met with gratifying exploration/examination of self. if only it were so mutually available, if only i could give quite as much to someone in return And happen to genuinely understand the composition of who they are and how they work so that i might best be able to aid them and reflect who they presumably are back to themselves
...tangential on-ramp onto the same thing earlier, but i do wonder if my presumable selfishness, even if some of it could be motivated by troubleshooting, is more broadly and substantively applicable than that
i don't know where else i want to go, i kind of forget and make up a direction again and then lose myself again, like wandering over the surface of this mass of thoughts/impressions in hopes of gathering enough of an inferable map of what i really want to address, but mostly just reactively running in funky shapes according to whatever seemed tangentially relevant
This statement is real as fuck, and the more I interact with a diverse cast of people in my day to day life, the more I’ve noticed these implicit assumptions that everyone has about each other’s understandings in order to co-exist, cooperate and communicate better.Achromalia wrote: 1ts28
“(and we would probably ultimately just try to hold an implicit assumption that we do or don't understand, for the sake of fluid conversational motion or something)“
In reality, everyone experiences everything differently. Everyone has different biases and base emotional reactions towards whatever information they are intaking at any given moment. However, in order to be a part of a smooth societal process, we have to convert all those emotions, reactions, and biases into something that is, like I said before, digestible for the masses.
We may well be thinking completely differently about a certain subject or topic at hand, but we quickly unpack the information we receive using our world view, then repack our thoughts into something we believe the other party we are communicating with can understand.
Idk, I have so many thoughts regarding that statement you made, but the more I try to explain from my perspective, the more I realize I have to be very precise and intent with explaining the fundamentals of how and what my brain is thinking of, because of how complicated and indecipherable my thoughts sometimes feel. Especially when I try to imagine what it would be like to read my words without being in my brain in the first place. I always tend to assume the worst misinterpretation of my statements, which makes it harder to convey my thoughts because language is almost always left with room for misinterpretation.
I think letting yourself go on tangents and writing down your thoughts in a very Freeform manner is good for getting other people to understand how your brain works and helps give an better understanding of your perspective / frame of reference. If I’m able to see where your train of thought naturally goes, then I can start to form a general idea of how your brain operates which makes me feel like I can understand you better. (???)
Again, my words really did not do justice to my thoughts in that last paragraph I just wrote. After re-reading it on my own, I already misinterpreted my own thoughts trying to predict how other people would intake it.
I think human (all species?) brains are innately anticipatory and predictive, and that is the function of life. I feel like I can draw a lot of parallels between “anticipation and prediction” and a lot of basic human behaviors. The way that we evolved to survive is by being able to anticipate what is going to happen, so that we can avoid any potentially catastrophic conflict, like getting eaten by a predator. The more we intake information, the more we can predict what will happen.
Think of being able to predict the ending of a movie, or the next note in a song. Think of when you’re trying to learn a skill such as skateboarding. You have no idea how the board feels under your feet, so the first time you get on, your balance is completely out of wack. However, the more you experience all those micro-positions of yourself on the skateboard, the more you are able to predict how it feels under your feet. The better you get at predicting how to balance correctly to stay on top and not fall off. I’d also say that babies learning to walk also fall under the same category as “anticipatory learning”. Babies have no idea how it feels to stand up, so they keep falling over until they do it over and over again and build that connection in that brain that lets them predict how it will feel into stand on two feet.
I guess you can simplify what I’m saying by calling it muscle memory or whatever, but idk. Muscle memory is essentially just anticipation building in my eyes.
So, now that I’ve explained how my brain tends to view things through this “anticipatory” lens, I can further explain how we can benefit from learning more about each other as humans. The more I know about a specific individual, the more I feel like I can predict how they will react to any information. If my predictions are accurate, then I know my understanding of an individual is somewhat valid.
Now, with that being said, I don’t believe humans are ever truly predictable. It would be arrogant to assume you understand somebody so well that you know exactly how they will react to something. However, I do believe that you can view these “predictions” you have of people moreso as a “scope” of predictions that you can narrow over time based on how much you interact with said person and how much you understand said person.
Think of all predictions you have of someone as being able to be placed on a standard deviation graph. And assume that the middle of the graph is representative of truth. The graph can narrow closer to where most predictions are fairly close to the middle (aka truth). Or it can broaden and a lot of predictions will fall closer to the outside away from truth. The narrower the “scope” or “graph”, the closer you are to truth/understanding.
The graph will never be static. It will always be ever changing and dynamic. It will depend on both parties’ moods and so many other contributing factors.
Idk, the more I try to explain, the more I realize how beautiful language and communication is. English is hard because it is so dynamic and subjective. Math is the closest language we have to absolute truth.
I think I have thought myself into a dead end in regards to this.
I’ve been doing a lot of introspection lately, trying to understand how my brain works and how I operate as an individual. One of the themes that really stood out to me, that I felt like I was able to relate a lot of aspects of my life to, is this concept of “Focus”.Achromalia wrote: 1ts28
i recently was given a thing that "introduced" the general concepts of focus being either ively attracted or actively directed
I still don’t know how to explain it, but I believe that having control over your “focus” is an extremely powerful tool to have in life.
Focus, attention, prediction, anticipation, connection, honesty, acceptance, ability, awareness, expression. These are all words that I hold high values of. Not necessarily in their literal definitions, but moreso how I relate those words to my beliefs and experiences as a human being.
I think for me personally, viewing myself as these compartments of “selves” was very distressing and made me feel a lack of self identity. Ever since coming to that conclusion, I’ve tried viewing myself as a present tense combination of all former past selves’ experiences. Viewing myself as a whole, rather than in pieces.Achromalia wrote: 1ts28
i would probably have hoped for many interchangeable and modular selves i could readily be, but i also probably would not have hoped for quite "the selves" (not really, i suppose) that i've been in recent/present reality... so many "ideal selves" that are mostly similar but still sometimes compartmentalized into separate concentrations
I know that biologically speaking, it’s probably more accurate that we are modular / compartmented “selves”, but that stresses me out too much. I think part of me was always trying to appease how I thought I SHOULD be feeling based on how my past selves would feel, rather than letting my current self feel how I truly feel. I always thought that my feelings were invalid due to the fact that I’ve felt differently in the past.
I think this is where the “honesty” theme comes into play. When I feel a certain emotion, I no longer try to invalidate my own feelings due to my past selves. I allow myself to feel those emotions, then try to understand WHY I am feeling that way if necessary.
In a sense, I am being more honest with myself in regards to my emotions.
concentrating on this at the moment because this is probably what i would have more thoughts for now :3Penguin wrote: 2l1d1p
I think for me personally, viewing myself as these compartments of “selves” was very distressing and made me feel a lack of self identity. Ever since coming to that conclusion, I’ve tried viewing myself as a present tense combination of all former past selves’ experiences. Viewing myself as a whole, rather than in pieces.Achromalia wrote: 1ts28
i would probably have hoped for many interchangeable and modular selves i could readily be, but i also probably would not have hoped for quite "the selves" (not really, i suppose) that i've been in recent/present reality... so many "ideal selves" that are mostly similar but still sometimes compartmentalized into separate concentrations
I know that biologically speaking, it’s probably more accurate that we are modular / compartmented “selves”, but that stresses me out too much. I think part of me was always trying to appease how I thought I SHOULD be feeling based on how my past selves would feel, rather than letting my current self feel how I truly feel. I always thought that my feelings were invalid due to the fact that I’ve felt differently in the past.
I think this is where the “honesty” theme comes into play. When I feel a certain emotion, I no longer try to invalidate my own feelings due to my past selves. I allow myself to feel those emotions, then try to understand WHY I am feeling that way if necessary.
In a sense, I am being more honest with myself in regards to my emotions.
mm. im not sure what i make of it, and i probably didnt actively try to test whether i found distress depending on how i would or wouldn't be perceiving a compartmentalized identity. im not really sure which things are caused by which other things, whether anything in particular is causative of anything else, or how relevant they are to anything in general :<
distress comes from having been any kind of past self (but more accurately, it's distressing to not be the one imaginary person i arbitrarily felt to be exclusively acceptable), such that the past is inextricable from who i am. i could take value in parts of who i am and "be grateful" for a past that enabled this or "be realistic/pragmatic" about achieving some sort of valuable goal in self-development, but it seems sort of obligatory and not even necessarily representative of what must happen in order for a person to adopt/acquire/demonstrate the traits or behaviors or tendencies i seem to value. and even then, the present self is not really something im going to be satisfied with for as long as i cherish that ideal self the way i do
that ideal self... isn't someone a person can "become", it's an entire continuity of experience that needs to originate in very precise conditions "from birth" (in reality, due to consequence, it would probably be fair to say the origin would be found much further back in time, or maybe not even within a real timeline), in both "natural" character and circumstantial contexts
one natural response to this could be to "let it go", leave behind an unrealistic image and live in reality, or something along that line of thought
...i don't seem to be quite there yet
in essence, there's a sort of perpetual mourning, a paralysis, "trapped" in a daze by this mesmerizing mirage of a desirable chosen identity/life that is consistent with the reality it persists in which can be experienced in full
...im not really sure what im trying to say
im really out of energy and my attention is failing me :(
oh but to be able to choose
to choose to choose to choose and to have it be real
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