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Poll 10: Do you delete map elements? 525x2j

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Do you delete map elements? 3u1cn

I delete everything on _every_ map (SB/Background/Skin).
31
11.44%
I delete elements on a regular basis.
29
10.70%
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.
130
47.97%
I play the maps as they were made.
81
29.89%
Total votes: 271
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I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.

I used to delete the heavy sb cause my pc can't handle them, but since i have changed it, i don't have that need anymore.

And as for the skin elements, i will always delete those hitburst that are all the same colour or almost the same, and nearly invisible hit circles.

It's very stupid to play a stream and not really knowing if youre doing 300's, 100's or 50's so you could adjust yourself to go faster or slower.
Lunah_old
I delete everything, almost always. I keep only custom hitsounds
3rd option, see Poker face map for more details: http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/24782
aevv_old

Lunah wrote: 5w3v3y

I delete everything, almost always. I keep only custom hitsounds
alot of custom hitsounds dont start on time properly so leave me going slightly late as i play most fully by ear (shit eyes y0y0) so i delete EVERYTHING, ALWAYS. the only time i didnt was http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/16789 because mostly black bg anyways
I'm to lazy to delete elements every time, but if sbskin is terrible or i play hidden, i'll most likely delete everything.
giO-
I delete everything on every map usually
sometimes keep bg
I don't delete anything, in case I don't like whatever the map has, I just go and play another map.
i never delete anything
song feels so plain to me without a bg/sb elements effects etc
it's one of the factors which give each map its uniqueness imo
Waryas
I am torn between
I delete elements on a regular basis.
and
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing

I don't mind BG/Skin when i'm playing with no mod but I rename them for mod play.

I always delete skin though, no exception.

Side note: Due to the nature of Hard Rock and Flashlight (and probably Doubletime), these mods are quite a bit easier without a background due to the higher contrast between the (lack of) background and the followpoints and/or hitcircles.
I thought FL players wouldn't care about BG as it's always black anyway..
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.


i enjoy playing with the video ON and appreciate having SB activated, in most cases it helps me focusing and being in the mood of the song.
I ire heavy skins (astom?) but they get in the way too much and RUIN Gameplay which should be the most important aspect of the game in my opinion.
I always delete BG, Skin and Video because I play only with hard rock mode and when the approach rate is 10 the BG become really annoying.
Also because osu folder become heavy when you have more than 5000 maps and don't delete the elements :( (but I guess this one isn't a good reason :D ) .
I always delete skin/sb/bg.
I've his for 2 months now, and game experience have been so much better. As it is a game I want to become better at I remove
annoying elements (this is more because of a colourful bg than a fancy skin), that prevent me from concentrating on the actual gameplay that I enjoy so much.
3.

I delete hitx if I can't distinguish them (which means I play with them atleast once :p). This doesn't really mean every hitx that have the same color, just those I can't distinguish xD. Spinner-spins with pictures that, when rotating, makes 38904845 x colors everywhere, which makes it impossible to see my cursor (I force my cursor btw). Overlays only when they make the circles harder to see, and approachcircles that doesn't fit.

As for SB, I aaalmost never delete them unless they're REALLY annoying. I play nightcore flashy maps just fine.

When playing Hardrock or Flashlight (and I guess Doubletime? I don't really play that much, and atleast yet I haven't played anything hard enough for me to delete anything), I delete the background (not if the background is pretty dark already tho :p), tho I never touch the BG otherwise. Playing with these mods are the only time I delete SB even if it's just a little distracting or something. Which, btw, means most of the SB/BG/Skin elements are still there (well maybe not skin :p)

Then again, every file is still in their respective folders, where I always copy-paste the files before deleting them, leaving that nice "copy" tag to them ^^
I picked 4 even though there was one time I removed an SB, and that was just because on my old computer it couldn't handle it and I wanted to play the map. But now that I have a much better computer, I don't remove anything really, partly because I find my sight to be rather sharp (with my glasses on) and I don't need much contrast to distinguish things or get that distracted to SBs (unless I'm paying attention to it, but when I'm trying I just tune it out)
"I delete elements on a regular basis"

As in, I usually -move to a new folder- storyboards, skins, custom hitsounds for multiple reasons (More concentration, more fps, less lag...)
and let the background stay where it is.

When the map is speedy, colors beat pathetically blend with the bg or I'm trying to do a record I move it too for maximize focus on beats.
Sometimes the beats are very dark like brown, black, blue and hardly seeable on black, in those cases I set a minimalist bg with a plain color (Most of the times a yellow one with a Pikachu xD),eg: Matryoshka
Poker face by Gumi...I wasn't able to play it at all with the background, but after taking it off I FC'd it in short time.
I used to delete anything with non transparent bursts (300, 100 etc). But now days I just play everything straight, no point not being able to get over it especially if I won't be able to delete them in the future.

ShaggoN wrote: 2c5r6e

I stuck between second and third option. But i finally chose third.
Soo:
SB: I delete it when map is hard, and SB flashes and blabla makes it even more harder and makes me blind. Examples: DJ Sharpnel - StrangeProgram, System of a Down - Vicinity of Obscenity. Also when SB contains colorful fast moving object, or when I just don't like the SB.
BG: I put it to trash when Combo colors are the same or very similar to BG which makes approach circles barely visible (i'm still wondering why BAT's are ranking maps like this). Also when it's very colorful. Ex: Hatsune Miku & Megpoid Gumi - MATRYOSHKA [Insane].
Skin: I delete EVERY hit300, hit100 and blabla objects, and usually hitcircles, appcircles too. I usually don't mind of the rest. I say "usually" cause i delete it too when it looks ridiculous for me and annoys me. ^_^ I'm not giving examples here, cause there is very many custom skins and it's not hard to find it. And because i'm lazy to continue this post. :P


Well , yes .. exactly this , i do the same but i choose 2.



Oh , and spinners , totally forgot that , i allways delete spinners.
"I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing."
I've seen a variety of maps with SB's with pulses and flashes. I can handle playing with the occasional flash, but sometimes when it flashes at a high rate, I can't even bare to watch without my eyes hurting. Sad to say some mappers just shrug it off by adding the epilepsy warning.

Maps that have a storyboard meant to "confuse" like Disturbia are fine, but maps like StrangeProgram...

NoHItter wrote: 5s6r71

Maps that have a storyboard meant to "confuse" like Disturbia are fine, but maps like StrangeProgram...
The recently ranked Opera SB springs to mind.
Storyboard flashing and poor skin design are the biggest reasons I feel compelled to remove map elements. I might enjoy playing a particular song, but can't get through it because the mapper decided to use an experimental cursor design, or thought it would be clever if the 300/100 bursts looked like approach circles, and the hide some real hitcircles under these bogus approach circles. Essentially when mappers use poor aesthetic design choices to artificially inflate the difficulty.

http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/8126 In this gem we see a lighting.png effect causing bogus approach circles to grow from each circle you hit, and circles that sit stationary around each circle, exacerbated during kiai time. Seems purposely confusing. I had to remove lighting.png to get through the harder difficulties.

http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/9533 Pink and pale blue translucent hitcircles on a pale pink/white background. Was this on purpose? I FC'd it without having to remove the background in a couple tries, but that's because I'm just good at this. 8-)
Only when they really prevent me from playing.
This is the case mostly with storyboards (although I just rename the elements and don't delete them). I can't really handle pulses and flashes (examples: David Guetta ft Akon - Sexy Bitch or Baracuda - Where Is The Love) or when they really make me lag (example: HTT - No, Thank You!).

As for skins, I have the same behaviour (with higher standards - that is I delete them more often than storyboards). And I automatically delete spinners that are drawn or that don't show the center, which makes spinning impossible for me.

And I very rarely delete backgrounds - only when the combo colours seriously blend with it (I don't have examples that I of...).
I delete 95% of the custom made skins and about 25% of the storyboards.

I mean, most skins are just retarded to say the least, they are unreadable, 300/100/50 which look the same and diffrent colors for geki etc. beats. All just silly imo, has to be deleted.
Even back when I played seriously I always considered adjusting to different storyboards/skins as a skill to be mastered, just like any other playing techniques. I enjoyed the challenge of the heart approach circles in ztrot's Love Shine and I eventually got used to it. Though in cases where the skins/SB/color selections made it too annoying to play, I simply deleted the map and moved on (can't think of any specific examples since I don't the maps that I delete :P)

I've always thought deleting those elements was a cheap way of getting a high score, and I'm actually pretty surprised that I'm the minority here.

As a disclaimer though I WILL say that I don't play 95% of the japanese/anime stuff out there, so I may be oblivious to exactly how bad some of these skins/storyboards actually are.
I like to play maps with my skin only. Also most storyboards cause lags so I delete them as well. So yeah, mp3, background and .osu files are all I leave in the map.
I tend to delete skins most of the time because they're often ridiculous to play with. Certain skin elements (such as the lifebar or hitcircles+overlay) I leave intact because they work well, but stuff like the spinners and sliderballs I don't like so much.

I often move storyboards/.osbs to a different folder due to the fact that they make maps unplayable (or unable I should say) for me, and I often end up failing. I occasionally delete them if they're just random flashes and excessively laggy.

I used to only rarely move backgrounds to a different folder; but as I begin to get better and play harder maps, the input lag becomes more significant so I've been removing backgrounds more often lately.

As soon as a I get a better machine (if I do), I doubt I will even remove backgrounds, and I'll only move sbs when trying to do hardcore maps.
I delete anything that gives me seizures or headaches, so usually any sb that makes flashes and such.

Everything else I leave intact, even if it's ugly or annoying.
Have yet to delete anything, even when it's interfere with playing.
I just play as it was made and consider it some type of added difficulty.
No I do not. No I never have.
only if i find it hard to play with it. so i normally delete pulsing sb's and annoying hitcircles
I delete SBs if they cause lag. I rarely delete custom skins or backgrounds.
Examples which SBs I've deleted:
http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/17912
http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/12191
http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/s/17670
Skins pretty much always have to go, same goes for parts of the storyboard that puts me out of rhytm. However, while a lot of people seem to frown upon storyboards with flashes/pulses i find that they do, if timed correctly, both makes the map more enjoyable and makes me play better.

What I find interesting however is that you ask not only about backgrounds, skins and storyboard elements, but also storyboards themselves. I always assumed there'd be some kind of serversidedcheck to assure you were using the correct one, but since you have to ask, does that mean that you do actually not make sure that the correct storyboard is used, and that the only thing stopping anyone from completely combating the hidden, and partially combating the flashlight mod with a custom SB, is the amount of time they would have to invest?
I never want to change anything of mappers' masterpieces.
As far as I can I haven't removed anything on any map, ever.
And I only one map I've ever played on novideo.

By the way, it says "Poll runs till -319448 seconds ago" at the top :lol:
I replace/delete skins, backgrounds, and all that stuff if i'm unable to FC it on the 5th try or so.

Then i'll place them back after I FC it.
Never delete stuff, I just rage about them on irc and play a different map

Zerostarry wrote: 1y131

I replace/delete skins, backgrounds, and all that stuff if i'm unable to FC it on the 5th try or so.

Then i'll place them back after I FC it.
same
Only when it confuses me.

but many of those that have custom circle and hit effect usually confuses me

I never delete BGs or hitsounds but circles and effects are usually deleted.
pink on pink, white/gray on white/gray, heart shaped approach circles, and similarly colored hitbursts are all things I delete. They are also the only things I delete.

Storyboards are seldom annoying or lag me. I seldom delete anything.
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.
Example: I can't see the cursor nor the circles properly.

ziin wrote: u6yr

pink on pink
But, but.... but i made black overlays/sliderborders to increase the visibility of the beats ;_;

Slightly quoting white/gray on white/gray things (this map aaaaaaaaah), but sometimes enabling/disabling video (depends on the beatmap itself) helps me play.
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.

Which are heavy SB's (S_i_R_i_R_u's, for example)
Horribad skins
Heavy BG's (Mind you some of them make me drop to 30 fps, a good example is The Killers - Somedy Told Me on [Hard])
And sometimes I get rid of SB's to get into precision mode and try to FC/Clear, even though I do it very rarely
"I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing." ...is what I chose, since it best fits my situation.

Generally, I don't delete anything - I just move them all into a new folder that I will create in the song folder.

I prefer the ouendan2 skin more than any other skin, so I usually remove the skins in the folders, as it actually bothers me if I don't see the skin. But there are exceptions, and sometimes I would leave the preset skin alone because it fits, looks good, and/or it doesn't bother me much.

I do have a strict policy though. Backgrounds showing anime girls in a somewhat seductive manner or any bg with a girl in it that I don't feel would be best for my family and others to see will be removed on sight. I maintain a PG-13 environment back home, and I don't want other people making assumptions or saying anything about me if they see a background like that while I am playing.
Anything with a halfway terrible skin gets deleted. I'll usually leave the SB and I always leave the BG.
I delete everything cuz it's easier to play that way >_> lame, I know, but that's how I play
I'll delete the elements that cause flashy scene, as well as 50/100/300 elements.
I chose the option "I play the maps as they were made" but I actually tend to avoid playing maps with high amounts of SB unless the map is actually enjoyable. (or in special cases where the SB is better than the map) *

Reasons include:
  1. Lag
  1. Distraction
  1. Custom skin elements like cursor or hitsounds.
Zhanger_old
I typically delete elements when they interfere with playing or when I need a scapegoat for doing badly on a map ~_~.
But I usually just dislike the 300,100,50 images cause typically the colors are different and I rely on the color rather than number to know what i got ;s

animask wrote: 5e3k2d

I chose the option "I play the maps as they were made" but I actually tend to avoid playing maps with high amounts of SB unless the map is actually enjoyable. (or in special cases where the SB is better than the map) *

Reasons include:
  1. Lag
  1. Distraction
  1. Custom skin elements like cursor or hitsounds.
you can choose to have your default skin's cursor overwrite any custom one - just fyi :P

too bad its only the cursor T^T
The only sb ive ever removed was in Nightcore - Jump Jump

But I put it into a new folder and then put it back because it's JUST TOO FUN TO NOT WATCH.
The SPINNER blends well to the mouse cursor (even if you change the cursor)... can't see it very well...
I can't get a higher bonuses...

BTW, I still not deleting those spinner skins even if I want to... because I still get a 300...
I only move the SB (when i have lag) to other folder and later i restore it :3
I delete everything in every map because it helps me a lot on increasing the fps so i can move faster, and by faster i mean more normal than a laggy retarded movement.

I'm doing this only because it helps me playing better if the computer has a better performance, i couldn't have cared less about the visual stuff if they didn't do anything to my weak computer :|

When i'll get a better computer ( i don't think it will happen soon though..) i'll stop deleting stuff.
I play the maps as they were made. Maybe because I find it too bothersome to go find the beatmap's folder and delete everything there.
When something lags me, I just wait for my computer to get "better" (restarting often helps), or just play something else. Storyboards generally don't affect me though; whenever I get lag spikes, I get them globally, and I can get through any skin pretty much fine (except of course if it's an horribly horrible skin, but I don't recall any, probably because I don't play as much anime as everyone else).
If I delete the elements.
I think the map will be tedious~~~

maybe it will let me make more "miss" when I'am playing.

but I think It is the important parts of th OSU!

I like them~~~
Maps should be played as they were meant to be. The only exception I would make is if it's as flashy as that map James made a while ago.
You can delete custom skins? I did not even know you could do that. Some custom skins really kill me. I guess I play them as they are meant to be.

statementreply wrote: 164b6u

  1. sb that causes lag
  2. sb that makes me feel sick (eg. with the whole image flashing/rotating/moving)
  3. hit 300 100 50 if the colors look alike
  4. spinner without center
  5. approachcircle and hitcircleoverlay sometimes
  6. ...
I've forget if i have already post here...


Hum , it depends. If it's only "switch-BG", it's okay , but if it's like Strange Program , huh , no no no D:
...

NeverDie wrote: 3ug1i

on my horrible computer (which I'm sure most players in countries like china have)
...the typical ignorant American/banana



Also yeah I know peppy keeps saying SB lags aren't supposed to happen but, truth is, they do.
China makes most of our electronics and thus can get them for cheaper...
well i didn't delete anything
because i already get used with some annoying elements.
I only delete those super-special-HD quality-awesome videos,when I get tired of 'no-video' them,because my PC is a monster...in a old way,ya know.
well i not delet elements becuase sometimes this elements are need for help in the experience of play that map, but sometimes i only with the option " without video" because the video sometimes give lag very bad
When it come to disturb my gameplay, no doubt I will delete it immediately. As a player, I prefer more score than art
Delete elements on a regular basis. I've been playing on black backgrounds on other rhythm games and I still prefer to keep it that way.
no because i was too lazy to search the song folder

peppy wrote: 115z70

Deleting storybaords, backgrounds and skins is possible due to the currently open nature of beatmaps. Without getting into a debate over what is right or wrong, I would like to know the general ratio of people who do this -- mainly to reinforce my beliefs that the number isn't as high as some people think.

If you make a post starting any kind of debate it will be removed.

If you choose the last option, providing examples of maps is highly encouraged!
I play no vid
No video is perma on.

Only thing that really bothers me are some of the custom skins. I prefer my own skin most of the time ;)
I delete backgrounds when they are suggestive or borderline-NSFW as I play osu! in my living room.
Rena-chan
Hell no !
If anything, I add a custom skin, video, or SB to maps that deserve it. No deleting things here, unless they make maps REALLY unplayable.
I've only ever deleted HORRIBLY distracting SBs, such as ones that move around, which can REALLY be bad on taiko, and a skin that just made playing painful, because it was half transparent.

Hell no !
If anything, I add a custom skin, video, or SB to maps that deserve it. No deleting things here, unless they make maps REALLY unplayable.
The hell? How ;_;?

OzzyOzrock wrote: 4u3m5d

I've only ever deleted HORRIBLY distracting SBs, such as ones that move around, which can REALLY be bad on taiko, and a skin that just made playing painful, because it was half transparent.
Heh, agreed. I do same too. A_A
I delete pretty much all of that. Screw owner's skins. I'm going to play how I want to play.

07 Ghost wrote: 543p41

I delete pretty much all of that. Screw owner's skins. I'm going to play how I want to play.

'ㅅ')b
Say for example - Infected Mushroom - Becoming Insane has a annoying strobing effect which annoys me. I had to delete the flashing.

Same applied to Alice Deejay - Better Off Alone

Maybe there should be a rule to not use these types of strobing..for anyone!!
Cheer-no
I only deleted the BG on StrangeProgram. Too headache-inducing...
Rena-chan

OzzyOzrock wrote: 4u3m5d

Hell no !
If anything, I add a custom skin, video, or SB to maps that deserve it. No deleting things here, unless they make maps REALLY unplayable.
The hell? How ;_;?
.osb editing. As long as I don't touch the .osu, I can insert however many SB elements I want in an already ranked map without breaking it for me. :>
I should change my vote to always.
that's hard core
excellions
delete everything

mokona99 wrote: 6vf2g

I delete backgrounds when they are suggestive or borderline-NSFW as I play osu! in my living room.
I am not one for deleting map elements. But I often replace them with a properly colored/better/easier to see ones. Or sometimes replace a normal video with another of a higher quality. Some backgrounds are really difficult to tolerate, being in a household with three children under ten years of age, those I delete/replace with similarly colored,"Safer" ones. Though, to be honest, I could also live with not being able to delete or change anything -- it will not make life much harder, I would simply have to disregard such maps/give them a low rating for their inability to provide a level of entertainment that reaches all ages and is unrestricting to play. (I sometimes try to suggest better options to the "offending" mapper when feasible)
Update: I rename map elements only when trying to play something with HR or DT. It makes everything easier because I can then read the followpoints, so I can read the map a lot better. I'll put it back when I'm done though. :?

(Now I completely understand why a lot of pro players delete stuff, HR and DT are practically impossible if you add a BG~ o.o)
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.

I play with white cursor so white BG + kiai and I'll be wtfblind.
I also don't delete... I put troublesome elements in a bak directory, which makes it easy to restore as well as find the maps I've changed.

The reasons:

1) Flashes. Most maps with the warning I have no problem with (I'm not epileptic)... but a handful hit me pretty hard with nausea and disorientation, which can still be effecting me an hour later. After it happened the first time I've become more proactive with removing flash images from maps at the first sign that they might effect me.

2) Can't easily see some or all of the approach circles (because if I didn't want to see them, I'd turn on Hidden). On some maps, it's because of the circles themselves... thin or partially transparent. A lot of the time it's because of one or two combo groups which blend too well with the background... sometimes its pastels on pastels, but a lot of the time it's a dark colour (typically near black grey, purple, or blue) on a dark background. A lot of the time I put up with it, but I really hate it. If there were controls to alter combo colours in the game, probably be using them a lot.

3) Things I think are just pointless... like replacing the combo break sound with a silent one.

Most other annoying stuff I put up with.


I will also it that I have been tempted to do what others have suggested like replacing videos... either with higher quality ones, or with different videos (like replacing some of the Bad Apple videos for other versions just for variety). Similarly, there are a number of maps that use the same background (or no background)... I've been tempted to change some of those.
In most cases if the bg is very detailed (i.e. lots of colors, or other details) I will delete it in a heartbeat.
If it's a more simple one, then it all depends on the combo colors if I delete it or not.
All SB (unless it's really subtle) get's deleted instantly as well.
And I want to use my own skin only, so in 99% cases a skin which uses too detailed hitcircles and/or a custom hitburst skin, it just has to go. ;x;
Ussuru
I hate bright bgs, they are a huge pain in the butt. I like my custom skin which I made myself, I am happy with it, thank you, don't force me to play a TOUHOU or default skin EVER again, please... I beg you. But if you really, really tried your skin on all diffs not just easy, and you found that awesome, you skinned it and made an awesome SB which is helpful and not being an offense to my eyes then yes, I won't delete it. Until I put HR+DT there.
• I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.
• Also, I delete them if they are not safe for work, ecchi stuff, etc
• I delete inverted background as SB :o

excellions wrote: 5i593h

delete everything
Pretty sure most top tier players delete everything as it has a big impact on ur gameplay, and so do I , I'd rather have better gameplay instead of cool looking (he says hoping not to see forced bgs on osz2 : P)
-Shi_old
Deleting everything, especially crappy skins that gives a weird feel to the gameplay. (one map had an 8-bit pokemon skin, that was when I started to delete everyting)
Saya Takagi_old
i delete BG to use Flashlights in longs songs..
I delete everything all day erry day. Having anything other from default skin seriously makes me angry.
wether i'm playing competitively (solo) or casually(multi), i awlays have my song folder open so i can delete_every_single_visuals.
any form of visuals that aren't essiential part of the gameplay should not be there in the first place.
i don't delete custom histounds tough.but mostly beacause they never bother me,not beacause i like them.
RhaiizoN
Im playing with a blank background(black). I just rename it the title name for ex: 'BG' changed to 'BG(space)asdassadasd' instead of delete the BG, SB or other elements
;)
i love deleting bgs, sbs, and skins

does that make me a bad person :\
Skin elements, only if they're obnoxious and annoying to play with.

Other than that, no.
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