I haven't thought about all the stuff that got mentioned, but as I see it I can pretty much agree. I first started to map the Infected Mushroom song, but I stopped it pretty early already because it would even take me too much time to map the part as it's hard too map.

Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.

I did start...

Hey, I already finished a diff on Pink Nightmares :<

Eitherhow, yeah the BPM looks a bit weird and the Sonic song may be cut because of the repetativeness (if there's a good point to do that) but w/e, 2ct right here o:

Aside from Rooftop Run having too many loops I love these picks to death.

And BTW, people who map Rooftop Run will only be competing against other Rooftop Run maps.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

Wow, you didnt even start mapping and you already complain. What a mess.

Wow, you barely read his complaint and is already saying unnecessary things that don't add to the thread. What a mess.

Well, now doing something actually useful:
I agree with TGOC's complaint on Sonic Generations. The song is a bit repetitive and really doesn't work for a contest (unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song, which... imo, isn't a good idea).
I also seriously don't like that 3rd song as it has an EXTREMELY repetitive beat, forcing people to map to the vocals, thus excluding any variation you could get.

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote: 1r35p

In the editor the song was timed as "144.993" BPM. How lazy can you get. This song is created by a computer. It's 145 bpm but it seems like whoever retrieved this song was too lazy to get a correct encoded version.
Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Yeah but if you actually listen to it or play it you can tell that 145 BPM isn't proper. It's theoretical versus reality.

There is a video version of Pink Nightmare, which the length is 4:15



This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue

I'll try my luck at Rooftop Run. I like the track and it isn't as repetitive as everyone's saying, just involves more creativity It's pretty much the "Marathon" category of this contest, as it's going to be hard to get 3 diffs done by the deadline.

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote: 1r35p

Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Disregarding the song itself (I haven't actually checked it), you're wrong about this at least. It isn't that uncommon for electronic music to use BPMs like 120.5, not to mention that any DAW worth its salt will have access to fine tempo adjustment to at least three decimal places to be used at the artist's discretion. It does happen and can't really be considered an error.

Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.

ztrot, you're using Rooftop Run (Classic) and it's not the Slam Jam version? Shoot, I already have 3.25 maps of that track done

I'd like to , but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!

Jarby wrote: q501u

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote: 1r35p

Artists don't just put decimal bpm. Especially 3 places out.

Disregarding the song itself (I haven't actually checked it), you're wrong about this at least. It isn't that uncommon for electronic music to use BPMs like 120.5, not to mention that any DAW worth its salt will have access to fine tempo adjustment to at least three decimal places to be used at the artist's discretion. It does happen and can't really be considered an error.

Also, anecdotes from randoms in #modhelp effectively saying "wow that's odd" doesn't prove that the timing is incorrect. Moreso, if you actually knew what you were talking about, you would probably realize that it would also be incredibly unlikely for the tempo to be altered in this manner by an encoding error as you suggested.

Didn't spot this when reading that post, but this is correct. IIRC even the Pokemon devs sometimes use some really... weird... timings.

OMG! I just fell in love with Pink Nightmares!

One part of me says "enter that contest and map Pink Nightmares" and the rest no... :l

tieff wrote: 152u6

I'd like to , but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!

bmin11 wrote: 5c181l

tieff wrote: 152u6

I'd like to , but these songs just... meh. Well, I'll be waiting for the next contest. Good luck to all mappers!

[insert something here along the lines of "a good mapper should have the ability to map any song blah blah"]

A good mapper should have the ability to map any song, but why should he map something he don't like and won't enjoy mapping?

Then don't ? I don't see the problem here. This is a free contest, which means anyone's free to enter - or not to enter. I have the feeling you're just here to complain about the songs. A bit more detailed about what's wrong with these songs apart from personal taste would be welcome.

It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

I would like to try, but the army does not allow for a year, damn ....

Blue Dragon wrote: 4f31r

By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

Blue Dragon wrote: 4f31r

unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song

I have the latter feeling.

I have double-checked timing and while it is not what I would have used, is amply accurate (within 3ms throughout the song).

can anyone make a Osu Detective Conan Skin ?

wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests

Frostmourne wrote: 4d6b3j

Blue Dragon wrote: 4f31r

By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

Blue Dragon wrote: 4f31r

unless you're trying to see who makes a less boring map out of that song

I have the latter feeling.

Quoting the obviously.

Blue Dragon wrote: 4f31r

It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

Beat is not the only element of a song you can map.

You can see and example for the 1st option.

_tear wrote: 29552f

Blue Dragon wrote: 4f31r

It was just a comment about the songs. Why feel offended like that?
By the way, the songs need a bit more variation. Most of them are really repetitive and are just the same beat over and over.

Beat is not the only element of a song you can map.

Yep, like in the third song, where everyone will map to the vocals because the beat is extremely repetitive. What's the point on that?
First option isn't really an example of "you can variate" because it's the same song looped 4 times.

But I'm not complaining anymore.

Nice Contest, Definetly i will

The first one is actually looped 2 times. Surely if it's possible to map crossing field 6 times, it should be no problem to map this just twice?

deadbeat wrote: 42j28

wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests

i want a detective conan skin ... i cannot make skin

fendi22 wrote: 4b114b

deadbeat wrote: 42j28

wrong thread Fendi22, plus i don't think many people take skin requests

i want a detective conan skin ... i cannot make skin

15

This is the forum about Skinning, please stop going off-topic here now.

bmin11 wrote: 5c181l

There is a video version of Pink Nightmare, which the length is 4:15



This will not require any cuts and the fade out issue

Why couldn't they use this version? It's a bit longer but has the good parts of the song. Is cut better. It ends well.

Hey guys, I've finished the Hard Diff of Pink Nightmares, but it feels really awkward...

I think would be cool if we could use the Original or the Video cut...

Pleaseee!!

well good luck for everyone who try to participate (iwant to enter but im a 10 yr old kid)

Good luck to all <3
I think I should try this

On fuss fuzz, add a red timing point at 00:00:386 so people can use green inherited points in the start. (You can do it in all the diffs)

I got a question.
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)

If each question is answered, THANK U!

Awesomez53 wrote: 1a2a4l

I got a question.
1.Can each song have more than 3 difficulties?
2.Does 3 difficulty must have osu standard mode and then the other difficulties can have different game modes?(Catch the Beat, Taiko or osu mania)

If each question is answered, THANK U!

1. You can Submit max 3 difficulties per song
2. Only osu! standard. ( Don't bother for the playability in the other modalities )

Please be aware that you shall not name your difficulties different than "Easy/Normal/Hard/Insane" to keep the judgement unbiased and anonymous.
Also be aware that this contest has three brackets tho it has three 1st places.
There won't be a winner among all songs . All songs can be considered as separated in judgement and therefore in prizing.

This should probably go into OP, it's a pretty important thing

Is there another name for super difficult insane diffs? Like for those with a EHX spread.

We usually call it Extra/Expert because of the X

It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.

Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.

There's a few widely used naming conventions
Easy Normal Hard Insane Extra
Beginner Normal Hyper Another Extra

Insane is sometimes Lunatic in touhou maps.

Extreme..?

Good luck:)

Andrea wrote: 2o4839

It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.

Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.

Actually, one of the most important thing is the spread:
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities

Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.

Anoky wrote: 6b3h64

Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.

Somehow I agree.
Mainly because I never able to map without background (imagine playing/mapping with solid, boring blue background) I can say backgrounds represent the visual for the song you played/mapped.

HakuNoKaemi wrote: 296t47

Andrea wrote: 2o4839

It would be better to not map an Extra though, since there can be only 3 difficulties.

Highest difficulty is suggested to be Insane or Hard, but not Extra.

Actually, one of the most important thing is the spread:
Extra + something between Normal and Hard + Easy(EASY, though it's tough to map it in some of those songs XD), is a good spread for all abilities

That spread would be terrible, you know that, right?

There's a big lack of difficulties that way, if you would do that.

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.

Scorpiour wrote: j1238

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.

I don't understand that, sorry.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

Scorpiour wrote: j1238

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.

I don't understand that, sorry.

Seconded,
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing "mapper's will" is what was meant.

goodluck everyone.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

Scorpiour wrote: j1238

just wanna remind:

the difficulty of a map is NOT depend on mapping's willing.

I don't understand that, sorry.

sorry wrong typing

*mapper

Anoky wrote: 6b3h64

Rule #5 directly contradicts rule #1. Having a background is part of the ranking criteria.

and will be changed after the contest.

Good Luck Guys!

Good Luck for everyone!

GOODLUCK GUYS!!!!! :3

Ugh I'm so late on this. I'll try my best anyhow!


NOOOO! no custom hitsounds? D: I had the perfect setup for pink nightmares...


Also, how about making a huge mapset for the participants after the contest? It would be quite a waste to let the maps go unnoticed or having to rank them separately.

good luck guys ^^

That huge mapset idea is pretty great For the first 2 or 3 places in each song, or all maps judges find good enough for rank.

i tried to submit and it says "You have not submitted all the required files" .-.

i submitted 3 diffs

Good Luck For The Participants =w=

그래 개삘이다 해볼까 ?/

개삘인대 나도 해볼까 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Osu! > Those other online games.

Nice.
Im exiteced about the map's you will bring to us

ok the submision is failing ..... i cant get my map submited.....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ssgh82mx8lawb ... submit.jpg


there is a image showing it ......(in case u ask... those are the file sizes)

Keep in mind that the submission deadline ends very soon, on the 22nd June 2013. Please don't forget to finish your maps submit your entries as soon as possible.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

Keep in mind that the submission deadline ends very soon, on the 22nd June 2013. Please don't forget to finish your maps submit your entries as soon as possible.

thanks for reminding! (?

the submission has been fixed sorry about that guys, I'm debating on extending the submission date by a week to deal with the fact some may not have noticed it has been repaired but to anyone that is still having issues submitting please me right away!

Edit: it will be extended.

why? it wasn't broken to the point that submissions were stopped. i already ed all people who had broken submissions (all one of them) and they have re-ed.

I was under the impression some couldn't even submit at all.

no.

Extending would be cool, because some of us are having exam session right from the end of May till the end of June (the last exam is exactly on the 22th)
I never understood why such contests/owc are never held in some other time like july/march/october when there's nothing important happening (atleast here)
Just my 2cents

Kert wrote: 5z1d70

Extending would be cool, because some of us are having exam session right from the end of May till the end of June (the last exam is exactly on the 22th)
I never understood why such contests/owc are never held in some other time like july/march/october when there's nothing important happening (atleast here)
Just my 2cents

This

I'm out of the contest. Finished the insane but have no time for the rest...

why are you requesting an extension shortly before the deadline when you could've said something when the contest started .-.

Kert wrote: 5z1d70

Extending would be cool, because some of us are having exam session right from the end of May till the end of June (the last exam is exactly on the 22th)
I never understood why such contests/owc are never held in some other time like july/march/october when there's nothing important happening (atleast here)
Just my 2cents

Exactly. My exam session finishes at 29th, so working for the contest would result in loosing scholarship.
I didn't even try to finish anything because I knew I won't be able to participate.
Not like I'm asking for an extension, just saying that the dates were not the best choice.

Just by looking at the amount of submissions I say the deadline should be extended. Only 13 sets for all 3 songs, with only 2 submissions for Rooftop Run.

ztrot wrote: x6k62

Submission Deadline: 2013, 22nd June, 24:00 GMT+0

.

2013, 20th June, 18:10 GMT+1 here, I know fuses and so, but that's a bit more than 1 day earlier O.O

I've fixed the deadline. Now set to 22nd at 00:00 UTC+0

The submission count is awfully low... not sure if people are able to finish the sets in time. If the submissions are really low at the end, maybe consider extending the deadline?
There's a lot of people asking for one in the thread.

i agree that extending the deadline would be a lot better

2-7-5
I feel sorry to the second runner up... from 2

I'd extend it by about a week or so. If people can't work within a specified time frame, then that brings their own ability and commitment into question. Of course, if there've only seen a bunch of subpar, rushed efforts, then that's more than enough of a reason to extend the deadline. I wouldn't want to see a half-hearted pile of dross winning the contest by proxy.

ztrot wrote: x6k62

Submission Deadline: 2013, 22nd June, 24:00 GMT+0

The deadline in the OP is still 24 hours later...

The amount of submissions will probably raise right before the deadline, but still - I don't expect it to be any good frequency anyways. I wanted to map all the 3 songs but I simply had no time to map 3 full sets of forced songs in the given time, same as a lot of people present here. I think people should've been given time to at least try participating in all the categories, because making a good beatmap takes a lot of it.

jacob wrote: 5t4z31

i agree that extending the deadline would be a lot better

I agree too ;w;

I propose moving it to at least Tuesday 0:00 GMT so we at least have the weekend. And yes, Tuesday, not Monday, to ensure that those of us in the Americas have the entire weekend (including the wee hours of the morning).

I'm only offering an extension if people reply stating they have started a map for this competition and plan on completing it given more time.

Extension plz~~ Currently working on one, and an extra weekend will be nice.

I have started to map one of these songs. Considering that not even one diff is finished and that I'm also interested in mapping another song, an extension would be really great.

I've almost completed the hardest diff, but there's still a pretty difficult part to map left... Not to mention other 2 diffs. It's not very doable in this small amount of time left. And that's why moving the deadline is very important

I need to map half mapset, didn't find the time nor motivation before

We've had nearly a month to finish those maps, I kind of disagree on extending the time but meh.

Procrastination at it's best I guess