Auto scrolling triggers my OCD.

I'm not too impressed though. Switching between online/local/friend scoreboards would be better in my opinion. It looks a bit messy this way. I guess I'll get used to it.

Piotrekol wrote: j2y2n

But you can't use Unified rankings unless you're er.

It seems that it only applies to seeing friends' score right now.

But why all scores are blues (Without er) exept my not local best score ?

I think these colors are better, no ?

I'm bit disagree with we can't see top #400 anymore, sad ):

looking good

Pretty cool, but that scrolling is like blah. I'm more interested in looking at the part of the scoreboard I'm at, rather than scrolling away from the score. (Yes the scrolling stops by mouse-over, but let's say you're looking for a score, finds it, then opens chat, changes tab -> moves away mouse).

Aaaand a lot of times I'm usually just interested in the top scores anyway, so this scrolling behaviour is like ;_;

Other than that the new scoreboard is cool though!

This is just amazing. Thank you.

These has now been marked as added:
t/88988/

however, the automatic scrolling thing is a bit annoying. It should only scroll down if you're not moving/touching anything at all. So if you're moving your cursor or typing, it should go back up again. many even wants to disable it completely.

I also think sudden death and perfect mod ranks should be ignored as a default for all mods you can select, but once you select one of the two you start to filter out all the other ones.

omg nice so cool <3

theowest wrote: 5b3h42

however, the automatic scrolling thing is a bit annoying. It should only scroll down if you're not moving/touching anything at all. So if you're moving your cursor or typing, it should go back up again.

The score list don't scroll down only when you moving on it, and you must go back, it don't scroll up if you don't use the mouse wheel or move up the scroll bar

this looks really great, no doubt about it

but i can see that just from a quick glance at it, it looks kind of cluster-ish. just a small notice

but yeah good job!

http://puu.sh/2nESi - this is what my unified scoreboard looks like now. The scores won't load. I have a really slow internet connection, but normally scores would load with about one second delay, so I think it's not because of my internet. The normal (not unified) scoreboard won't load either.

I restarted my client and it worked again, but when I clicked another beatmap, it wouldn't load...

That "--" instead of ranks - is it normal?

Local scores... ;___:

Demmon wrote: 285x1w

theowest wrote: 5b3h42

however, the automatic scrolling thing is a bit annoying. It should only scroll down if you're not moving/touching anything at all. So if you're moving your cursor or typing, it should go back up again.

The score list don't scroll down only when you moving on it, and you must go back, it don't scroll up if you don't use the mouse wheel or move up the scroll bar

I know that, but this is the change I'm suggesting.
Many already wants to be able to disable this.

Morbon wrote: 3eh28

That "--" instead of ranks - is it normal?

Yes, that's normal. When you have unified ranking checked you see the ranks with mods you have selected, they can be any rank.
This is obviously to avoid a cluttered online ranking.

Awesome update, but one thing bothers me:
I can't see local scores during playing anymore and I am not good enough to get rank #50+ on nomod, so seeing these during playing doesn't help and makes the in-game scoreboard pretty much useless for me since I don't have many friends.

mario182 wrote: 3n5o4v

Awesome update, but one thing bothers me:

SPOILER

I can't see local scores during playing anymore and I am not good enough to get rank #50+ on nomod, so seeing these during playing doesn't help and makes the in-game scoreboard pretty much useless for me since I don't have many friends.

Oh yes, true

And, if we view the top 50, we should can view all replay (Can't view replay ender top 40)

Local scores should show up in-game. Please report this in tech if it is replicable.

Disable auto-scrolling.

The only things I don't like about this is the unified ranking being turned on after I finish every map and the scrolling down on the ranking display thing. Other than those, this is pretty nice!

It scrolls until it reaches your own score.

peppy wrote: 115z70

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().

but can local scores are shown only during gameplay even which is gone on song select screen?

peppy wrote: 115z70

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().

But i like to see my scores on the left of the screen while I'm playing

I want the local scores button back

As per above, this is likely a bug.

spaghetti2222 wrote: 5kie

peppy wrote: 115z70

Show local scores is gone forever unless you play offline ().

But i like to see my scores on the left of the screen while I'm playing

I want the local scores button back

I reported this here: p/2198503
But since this seems to be a bug anyways, awesome update, keep up the good work, peppy

peppy wrote: 115z70

Arnold0 wrote: j3uo

This seams a good idea but I'll miss the ability to show scores up to 400, because it is usfull for seing if all top 400 players use mods or not when you want to try to FC a map to gain a few PP (Because sometimes a FC nomod makes you top 1000+)

peppy wrote: 115z70

pp will very soon consider all scores, rather than the top ~1000. Don't worry about this.

So the pp system is going to change?

I really like this unified ranking system. But i don't really understand how it exactlty works or why i can't see people's ranking place.

Also, i scored an A that was better than my S a few moments ago. The A was saved online, but what was shown was the S. If i wanted to check my A I had to scroll.
Things like that make me think i don't know how this new system works.

It really looks good. but i miss the buttons on top.

I think it would be nice if i could go to options and disable autoscrolling or choose what i want to be shown in a way i could choose.

mario182 wrote: 3n5o4v

I reported this here: p/2198503
But since this seems to be a bug anyways, awesome update, keep up the good work, peppy

Sometimes my local score is on the left when I'm playing and sometimes it is not. Guessing it must be a bug since it's not permanent.

Great. Another useless innovation. Online Local scores (you kidding, right? its local, why now this need online?), automatic scrolling in the score list (very annoying thing), bye top400, hello top5 http://puu.sh/2nFEK, people with same mods - how nice and useless things. Friends best scores maybe one good point from "update".

Ranking must be like this


But it's like this (Blue color only)


It's harder to read

Dislike. i want see only local scores. Old style with swithcer was better

I dislike this fix

Now custom spinners are not transparent anymore

The spinner i had edited looked like this


But now it looks like this

I want to see flanchan again behind the spinner :/

RbwDash wrote: 591f4k

Dislike. i want see only local scores. Old style with swithcer was better

Please play offline.

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 444s1x

Now custom spinners are not transparent anymore

skin.ini SpinnerFadePlayfield:0
or "Prefer new default skin" in skin options.

frfrfr wrote: 3i5q6y

ye top400, hello top5

You can toggle this. By definition innovation cannot be useless, but I'm sorry you feel this way. Hopefully next update will have a more useful innovation for you. I think this one will be useful to the majority of the community, though.

wow, nice update!
but why are there so many random people with low score there?

peppy wrote: 115z70

[SAK]KING_OF_SA wrote: 444s1x

Now custom spinners are not transparent anymore

skin.ini SpinnerFadePlayfield:0
or "Prefer new default skin" in skin options.

hooo hoooh. I'm definetly doint that. thanks.

I really like this new feature!
Now will it be the turn for "Country" Unified scores? I will hope and wait for that too!

Don Omar wrote: 314u6h

wow, nice update!
but why are there so many random people with low score there?

your friends

theowest wrote: 5b3h42

Don Omar wrote: 314u6h

wow, nice update!
but why are there so many random people with low score there?

your friends

random people

Stop downgrade Ose!.. please

>ose

Aww, where did the local scores go..? I liked it the way it was before better. .. oh, well. gotta get used to it. D:

(But please, PLEASE add an option somewhere to disable auto-scrolling! it's a nice idea, yah, but really irritating as well.. at least for me. @.@)
Edit: Yeay, just noticed that auto-scrolling disappeared! Like it waaay better non-moving. (:

EDIT:
Found my local scores, but the old one is definitely better than this. Especially that scroll at the result screen, christ that looks so annoying.

Demmon wrote: 285x1w

Ranking must be like this

screen

But it's like this (Blue color only)

screen

It's harder to read

it's like this because ur not er.

Nice update! Autoscrolling is a bit annoying but from the outcry I assume it'll be fixed soon.

The two things I'd like to see changed:
1. More top overall scores: Maybe not back to 400, but 40 would be nice.
2. An option to put your local scores at the top. Having to scroll down to them all the time is a little annoying.

Otherwise I really like the idea. I need more friends

лучше бы заместо нового скина дал возможность отключить всю эту фигню

Nice update again !

Well, I have to say new score system is cool, but can't see up to Top 400 is... ;_;

Btw, autoscroll is not much annoying, indeed is cool.

Xplayer1 wrote: 1r3c16

1. More top overall scores: Maybe not back to 400, but 40 would be nice.

The new limit is rank 50, but you will see pretty much all ranks with the mods you have selected anyway with unified.

Xplayer1 wrote: 1r3c16

2. An option to put your local scores at the top. Having to scroll down to them all the time is a little annoying.

That's actually a pretty good suggestion.

I only want top400 back while not using "Unified scores" setting, and the "Refresh button"..
Top400 was a very good idea..

just want to say

from what i see that's pretty much useless @@

Is there any way -not- to show local scores on the online scoreboards? Right now it looks something like this:

It looks even worse on songs i whored.. so yeah. Not a er atm though so not sure if intended zz

I still prefer the classic top 6

z and c keys are placing notes since the latest update for me, which is very frustrating when trying to map and using keyboard shortcuts.

I wonder what are these scores

Those are the score differences between the player and the player below.

Mashley wrote: 3l2u7

z and c keys are placing notes since the latest update for me, which is very frustrating when trying to map and using keyboard shortcuts.

you've hit ctrl-tab somehow and activated live-mapping mode, hit it again to disable xc override

edit: no, you're right. this is my bad. i've got lua on the brain and completely fucked up the condition for check livemapping status. i'll push a fix right away. have peppy fix my hrorible code and already have a public build up with the fix before i even noticed.

Rock Forever wrote: 6p2j12

I wonder what are these scores

Next to the score, you see how many points MORE this score has to the previous one.

Is there any way to close this score setting? -_-

Good update. Thanks, Peppy

i like the new update but i not prefer peppy make that local score gone just like that

It'd be nice if there were 3 buttons: Top 40, Friends, and Local. It'd be much easier to understand in my opinion.

Like the overall update. Personally i haven't seen the local scoreboard autoscroll, but maybe I'm just not paying attention. One thing that confuses me is the point of the local score since it seems really cluttered when you have a lot of plays on a specific song. Also i think when you have a local score that is the same as your personal best its a bit redundant since you end up having 3 of the same score on the board.
The thing i would want to see changed is that maybe all local scores get moved under the personal best that shows the rank, then you dont have the issue like my image that shows a local score, a personal best, then more local scores.

So yea like the update, cant wait for unified to go live for free s(its a really nice feature but im certainly not paying for it haha)

Scrolling all the way down every time and no local scores is really annoying . qq

Takeda Shingen wrote: 3j1f30

Demmon wrote: 285x1w

Ranking must be like this

screen

But it's like this (Blue color only)

screen

It's harder to read

it's like this because ur not er.

So, because i'm not er, ranking is blue ? That idiot.

Rock Forever wrote: 6p2j12

I wonder what are these scores

Look that

Demmon wrote: 285x1w

Right, here +91 is the difference with Lance's score, and the +427 023 the difference with my best score

that nice! peppy thanks!

good work!

The more I play a song, the more my name shows up in the ranking screen. I really would like to prevent my entire top score list from filling up with my local scores. Is there some option I need to disable or something?

Yes yes yes yes yes yes

Thank you

Ephemeral wrote: 6y2w72

Mashley wrote: 3l2u7

z and c keys are placing notes since the latest update for me, which is very frustrating when trying to map and using keyboard shortcuts.

you've hit ctrl-tab somehow and activated live-mapping mode, hit it again to disable xc override

edit: no, you're right. this is my bad. i've got lua on the brain and completely fucked up the condition for check livemapping status. i'll push a fix right away. have peppy fix my hrorible code and already have a public build up with the fix before i even noticed.

Thanks Now I can finish my map

peppy! What is this patch in the online ranking in the window says "+ number"?

BrokenArrow wrote: 2p1611

Those are the score differences between the player and the player below.

First i wasn't sure what to think out of it just by seeing but I love this update <3

Well, I think this is the first time I dislike a new update. I was quite attached to the seperation online/local and the top 400. Now I find everything cluttered by too much information.

For example, I find the difference in points between 2 people pretty useless. What is interesting to know in osu! is the absolute score you have to get to someone, not the score difference.



Moreover, those duplicated entries in the ranking make me puzzled. I mean, no need to show the same piece of information three times, right?
...Or maybe this is a bug?

XPJ38 wrote: 3m2l40

Well, I think this is the first time I dislike a new update. I was quite attached to the seperation online/local and the top 400. Now I find everything cluttered by too much information.

For example, I find the difference in points between 2 people pretty useless. What is interesting to know in osu! is the absolute score you have to get to someone, not the score difference.



Moreover, those duplicated entries in the ranking make me puzzled. I mean, no need to show the same piece of information three times, right?
...Or maybe this is a bug?

The difference in points between 2 people is cool, you just don't use it
I think your -- rank is you best rank on your computer and the first #357 your best online score (For the second #357 I think t will delet)

Cobra wrote: 5l3v4h

It'd be nice if there were 3 buttons: Top 40, Friends, and Local. It'd be much easier to understand in my opinion.

But then that would make sense... and we can't have that

I don't like this update because I don't want to see the online rankings all the time, I just want to see my local scores, nothing else ._.

I don't like how the rankings automatically scroll down and show my scores. I much prefer having separate online and local scores - everything's much too cluttered as it is now. Can there be an option to view the new scoreboard and the old version with just the top 40? Or at least stopping it from scrolling down every time I choose a song :S

Normally I don't comment on these things and just get used to them, but this is really annoying.

Sweet update thanks

It's a lot of nice ideas but needs some work still. The scoreboard is very cluttered and slightly confusing as-is, and I hate the auto-scrolling feature (which seems to have disappeared already?). Also, I'm generally more interested in top scores than my own scores. Generally my only score I'm interested in is my top score, and the old system showed it just fine. If I want to see more details about my own scores, I scroll down.

Xiyng wrote: 4l1i52

It's a lot of nice ideas but needs some work still.

I have to agree on this one. As much as I respect your work peppy, please test those features out in the test build a bit longer and wait for further instead of publishing them (half-assed) for everyone immediately.

MoldyCereal wrote: ta4g

I don't like this update because I don't want to see the online rankings all the time, I just want to see my local scores, nothing else ._.

+1

nice update!!!

Why is this one option. Separate into 3 boards with friends' scores, top 40 (or 400), and local scores. And nobody cares about same-mod, just a waste of space cluttering things up.

A friends board is also the only thing you mentioned that would make things more competitive. I can see a friends board being pretty awesome.

PS: Making local scores harder to see is annoying, why would you do that for no real reason.

make 3 box that we can tick it

[ ]Top 400
[ ]Friends
[ ]Local

that will looks much more better

kind of confusing, but oh well xD.
Saw it on my other .

I fail to understand why no one should care about same mod scores. You realise that for those that can't get in the top x00, this will give them a more competitive play environment? You realise you can still toggle it off? Why not compete against people playing with the same difficulty settings as you? Where does the problem lie here?

Airaplenane wrote: 5u3b6t

MoldyCereal wrote: ta4g

I don't like this update because I don't want to see the online rankings all the time, I just want to see my local scores, nothing else ._.

+1

Please play offline. This will cause online ranking to be hidden.

mochi wrote: 6e6s1o

Cobra wrote: 5l3v4h

It'd be nice if there were 3 buttons: Top 40, Friends, and Local. It'd be much easier to understand in my opinion.

But then that would make sense... and we can't have that

Oh, right.

As long as it is being limited to ~50 items, I am not splitting it out into multiple options, sorry. Looking to keep things simple when it comes to the interface, because i'd like to increase vertical space in the near future. Scrolling ain't that hard .

peppy wrote: 115z70

Please play offline. This will cause online ranking to be hidden.

So, when we just want to see the local ranking, we have to . What is your purpose here?

mixed feelings on this. but im mostly positive.
I don't focus on local scores all that much, so i dont have a problem with that.

as for the mod separation and other stuff, i actually look forward to using that when looking at scores, but i guess it'll take a little getting used to .

EDIT: I see, so the whole thing about local score is that its all stuffed at the bottom... lol, i actually like this. i can compare my scores with diff mods and %'s easily just by scrolling

I can definitely see an issue with local scores when they are actually high enough to be in the middle of the online scores. I will look at improving this scenario.

peppy wrote: 115z70

I can definitely see an issue with local scores when they are actually high enough to be in the middle of the online scores. I will look at improving this scenario.

lol, yup, i saw this too. will you move it away and separate it somehow (you can click a toggle to show where your local scores go in between others), or will you like colorcode it off or something? I'm interested in this developing scenario.

peppy wrote: 115z70

As long as it is being limited to ~50 items, I am not splitting it out into multiple options, sorry. Looking to keep things simple when it comes to the interface, because i'd like to increase vertical space in the near future. Scrolling ain't that hard .

I find scrolling immensely difficult when using tablet.

In my opinion some World|Local|Friends|Country tabs upon unchecking Unified would make for a cleaner interface and provide more information. (Though the Country thing is still feature request).

also is there any chance of you bringing back web ranked score number?

I'll give some input about the new leaderboards here as the current #20 player.

I play some maps repeatedly because I enjoy them and/or want a better score. When I beat my record, I almost always no longer want to see the old ones because they're not relevant anymore. I'm more interested in how my friends or other top players have scored.
Playing at a global level is less fun now because most of the Top 50 is hidden now, so there's not as much incentive for me to play for a good score in that range unless I get into the Top 5, which is usually difficult.
Seeing the distance between scores (+54,958 for example) is too much clutter on the leaderboards for me. Each already contains many statistics and it's almost always more helpful to see the score I have to beat.

Top 40: I often play for scores in this range, so I would like to see these. Top 5 is too limiting.
SameMod: Not really interested.
Local: I usually only want to see my highest score.
Friends: Most interesting statistic for me, I would most appreciate just being able to see my friends' scores.

In my opinion letting people see one leaderboard at a time is best. Putting them all together is really confusing, it gets cluttered by local scores and people can't easily find the information they're looking for. It's a bit late for me, so I hope this made sense.

I don't like this. I don't care about the online board scores, I only care about my own local scores. I don't want to see the others.

I'm not that good, I don't care what they got.

Let me go back to only seeing my scores.

Put some way to show the default online scoreboards. That would be better.
EDIT: I meant offline.

Could all these people saying they cant see their own scores please explain? They are always visible for me.

The thing about these merged scoreboards is that if you're online, you have to wait for the online scores to load so you can view the local scores stored on your computer.

Which seems silly in my opinion, since if you've got really terrible internet and the online scoreboard can take a while to load or may not load at all, why must you wait for the online scores to load so you can view your local scores? Playing offline will bring up just the local scores, but then you can't really submit scores to the online scoreboards without connecting to the internet, submitting the score, then disconnecting so you can view the local scores again.

Plus, having all these scoreboards mashed together is messy, can't we have 3 scoreboard categories to choose from, like local / friends / online because that would be great and 100% more clean. u c u;

senofdark wrote: 33637

make 3 box that we can tick it

[ ]Top 400
[ ]Friends
[ ]Local

that will looks much more better

I think it's a nice idea.

I always play with my local ranks. And anyway, I don't think that just play offline is a nice way to resolve the problem. I play with my local rank is for check the hard part that I may usually missed on by checking the combo of my local ranks. And on the other hand, I think it may be really important to most players that are not really so pro that can always in top 50 to see their local ranks when playing.

Basically, the use cases was before:

1. local ranking.
2. online ranking (top 40 scores, and maaany pages).

But now:

1. Table unified ranking (Online top50, friends, and local). <-- cool xD

Opinions: I like the idea, usually never look at my local ranking, since I only want the highest score (that is the that remains online). The only "bad" is that now is a bit confusing quickly recognize what is what.

>> I would rather see a small title, when the ranking changes.


Now, what really interests me is the change that will calculate the PP. I guess now is the top of each mod, which I quite like, being 1st in any map requires a lot of skill with FL, although they can be very good with other modifiers, such as Hidden.
So I look forward to the announcement.

Sorry for my poor English, I helped with Google ._.

Whatever, cool change o3ob

Also hi my map

I am considering everyone's opinions here. There will likely be some changes to this feature in the near future. Keep the coming from both sides. I'm especially interested to hear from people who prefer the new style of ranking, since these people generally won't speak out loudly.

I'm actually a huge fan of the ingame leaderboard - competing against friend scores means you can actually see your place rise as you play the song, not just in the last 10 notes or so. And I can also see my own score now while I'm watching someone else play, which is something I've wanted for ages.

On the flipside, the song select leaderboard feels a bit cluttered and off IMO, the local scores crowd it up and the "mods you're playing with" gives irrelevant, nomod results a lot of the time when the mods you're playing with have very few scores. I'm looking forward to seeing how that evolves.

I say definitely keep the mixed ranking with friends cause that's very nice and you can compare with your friends on certain maps, definitely really good.

That being said, I liked to be able to go through my local scores and watch my old replays, so I'd definitely be in favor of that coming back.