I'm going to be the captain of the Finnish team, prepare for some delicious drama~

For this tournament, please, make sure that there is a ranking chart frequently updated. It is not pleasant to search through the posts to see who won a week ago

@Hanyuu YOu should read the OP. Apparantly, we don't have a mapset selector, yet

And srsly. Stop spamming. I don't feel like wiping out this thread every time. It's easier for me to restrict your posting privileges in this forums.

isn't Hidden an inappropriate mod?

[Edit] Talked to farto; gonna do my best on helping with the map selection process. I have a lot of map lists already, gonna sort out and provide the best for everyone to enjoy.

significantly shortened registration duration.

"» #1 s (~15th Nov. 2012 UTC):

3. The time lasts from the day of 25th October to 15th December 2012, 23:59 UTC."
I think you missed something.

Also, mandatory NORWAY #1!! cheer here

-GN wrote: 3k5y8

"» #1 s (~15th Nov. 2012 UTC):

3. The time lasts from the day of 25th October to 15th December 2012, 23:59 UTC."
I think you missed something.

lol thanks, fixed it.

Nothing to see here

so as gladi was implying under a sheet of sarcasm he will be dutch captain for OWC 2013

Post an application then. Not a troll placeholder.

GladiOol send me this over FB.

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So, I posted that I wanted to be captain of the dutch team.
I posted I want 8 players in my team because the last 2 years we had problems with getting enough players.
I post that when bad maps appear, I'll leave, but the team won't

And I ended up with saying HD might give a few problems, but I'm okay with that.


Why on earth would and who reads this be so butthurt that he edits my posts, then delete my posts and then ban my posting privileges.
Really? I just want to know why. I'm not even being rude or anything.

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NL true owc #2 champions!


Gladi edit: Loctav, if you don't like my posts me in-game or PM. Don't EDIT and DELETE my posts and then BAN me for YOUR actions.

Limit stays on 6. I am not butthurt. Learn to post properly. If he's willed to post proper, I revoke removing his posting privileges. I don't accept spamming here and it results in what you've seen. I warned everyone on first page already.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

Limit stays on 6. I am not butthurt. Learn to post properly. If he's willed to post proper, I revoke removing his posting privileges. I don't accept spamming here and it results in what you've seen. I warned everyone on first page already.

He posted properly. He's sorry if it mad you mad in any way, but the fact do is that NL played a few rounds with 3 players because of the problem they had with getting enough. Why can't they just have 8?

Again, Gladi wants his posting rights back etc. so he can discuss this with you in a normal matter/way. There's no need to ban him for 2 hours just because you don't agree with him.

Any chance of including a losers' bracket for this? ie. double eliminations format

It'll take a lot more time on scheduling though..

Sorry if it accidently went under the deleted posts. Feel free to ask again.

I'll be captain for team Canada
I already have a good idea of who will be in the team, but if you think you have a chance please PM me in-game~
also spread the word if you can.. because I don't have time to PM everyone ;_;

just allow 8 players. there is really no reason not to do it.
it makes it easier to get dates to play, the teams can use their players more tactical ("ah streammap? jumpy, go out, streamy, go in"), and the more people are playing the more fun it is to watch and participate. and, of course, it's easier to get someone else to play if some players can't play on the given date.

if you look at professional tournaments, then you will see that most of the time, the bank of substitutes is often even bigger than the team on the field, for the same reasons.

IT BEGINS

Lance wrote: 4a2i2a

IT BEGINS

NO PLZ NOOO DX

HEUHEUHU BR ES#1
let's go

Dutch team is ready

Y'know I really wouldn't mind an Australian team seeing as there have been 2 OWCs and no Australian team in either of them despite the fact that the game's creator is Australianagawognwqngogjow3nv.

Meh, let's hope Jappy finds out about this and tries to organise something.

Guys you should throw some discussion about whether scores or accuracy matter more because scores give really random results that are unrelated to play quality especially with today's maps. Maybe tourney would be better off with win-by-acc and not win-by-score..?

The scoring has been win-by-score in the past tournaments so I don't really see a reason to change it

Being able to FC a map / get a good score on it at all times is a quality required to play the game, especially in multi. It shows how good you have become on the map. So no, we should keep the win-by-score system.

Mercurial wrote: 6n5l4c

Image

Ah ah, this match

XPJ38 wrote: 3m2l40

Being able to FC a map / get a good score on it at all times is a quality required to play the game, especially in multi. It shows how good you have become on the map.

I beg to disagree. It's possible to play intentionally in a way that mis-plays maps correctly and yet has a much higher, more reliable chance to combo consistently on maps (at the loss of accuracy). Especially in multi, if you play for a score win, it's in fact better to play like that instead of playing correctly because you can always get random miss in the middle of the map and have the entire score ruined and get random'd out if you play legit. There are more than enough cases where one player has both higher acc and less miss than another yet less score from another due to combo, and it feels really unfair if the latter gets the win when it's clear the first one played better.

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

The scoring has been win-by-score in the past tournaments so I don't really see a reason to change it

Reason would be: to improve and make progress instead of getting stuck with sub-optimal decisions from the past. Focusing on accuracy and miss instead of combo would improve the quality of plays.

Either way, would be nice if some discussion was made on this before a decision was met; even if you just stick with scores in the end.

in single player score matters less because you can replay a map 500 times, in mp you can only play a map once so your score shows how good you are at the map. especially in an OWC you are pretty much expected to fc it anyway.
but please dont turn this into a gameplay and rankings topic.

Loctav is going to clean up the thread anyway, so just go wild.

silmarilen wrote: 15bw

especially in an OWC you are pretty much expected to fc it anyway.

in reality most people won't fc; unless we pick very ridiculously easy maps. that's why I'm bringing this up. this affects the map picking process heavily

Most of the maps picked for OWC are going to be normal Insanes, with slightly increasing difficulty for each round. I don't what maps were played in last year's Finals, though.

edit: I just checked the last thread, you should use it for advice too. The maps for the Finals were on the level of Chousai Kenbo Sengen and F.I, so not really hard at all. They were basically all the tiebreakers and a few extra maps.

Aqo, your point of view makes sense (even if you forgot to mention all the other cases in multi where the winner also gets the best acc), but OWC must reflect osu! logic: the better your score is, the higher you are in the rankings. That's all. It IS sometimes unfair, but it's the way it goes. osu! is not an accuracy-centered game.

Is that tournament
for std or all mode ?

Standard. There is already a 2013 Taiko World Cup thread.

Loctav in OWC, too? Interesting.

BTW No more 'rubberband-like schedule', I hope.

in for the drama

If UK doesn't have a full team like last time I'd be more than happy to make it up to a full team

is reviving legal on this tournament? it shouldnt

Natteke wrote: 82xf

in for the drama

You'll be disappointed, Lunah isn't involved this time.

Aqo wrote: 2f6o2o

XPJ38 wrote: 3m2l40

Being able to FC a map / get a good score on it at all times is a quality required to play the game, especially in multi. It shows how good you have become on the map.

I beg to disagree. It's possible to play intentionally in a way that mis-plays maps correctly and yet has a much higher, more reliable chance to combo consistently on maps (at the loss of accuracy). Especially in multi, if you play for a score win, it's in fact better to play like that instead of playing correctly because you can always get random miss in the middle of the map and have the entire score ruined and get random'd out if you play legit. There are more than enough cases where one player has both higher acc and less miss than another yet less score from another due to combo, and it feels really unfair if the latter gets the win when it's clear the first one played better.

What do you define as "played better"? Isn't what you mentioned just strategy? If you play for keeping combo even if "misplaying the map" you'll end up with a worse score than an opponent with better acc that also FCs the same map, but on the other hand that "misplaying" could even be a match winner if no one else FCs it. That's what makes these games so interesting in my opinion. Measuring someone's skill isn't just their raw osu abilities, it's also how one handles pressure or even stamina, and there's definately a lot of pressure to handle when keeping high combos.

Aqo is map-selector?
This is going to be a fun tournament.

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Aqo is map-selector?
This is going to be a fun tournament.

I really hope that that's sarcasm.

The tournament's scoring system is not going to be changed. osu! serves us this kind of competition on maps and we simply follow it.

End of the topic.

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

is reviving legal on this tournament? it shouldnt

zozozofun wrote: 68b2f

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

is reviving legal on this tournament? it shouldnt

It will be taken care of, you shouldn't bother so much with it right now.

(edit: and no, failed scores won't count in)

I guess I'll take charge of being the Danish captain this year again. So reserving this spot for Denmark, and hoping I can get four players.

Can stream and commentate if needed.

Suppose I'll manage the UK this year, throw me a PM if anyone's interested.

Natteke wrote: 82xf

in for the drama

would take part if i could

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Aqo is map-selector?
This is going to be a fun tournament.

if that would be true then i put my white flag up right now and surrender coz i aint playing no aqo maps ;(

Renard wrote: j4v6x

darkmiz wrote: 4q1v70

Aqo is map-selector?
This is going to be a fun tournament.

if that would be true then i put my white flag up right now and surrender coz i aint playing no aqo maps ;(

I agree, maps should be easy and every average player should be able to FC them. Anything else is preposterous.

쿠키지 님 나와주세요 ㅠㅠ

jesus1412 is just mad because he can't compete in normal maps

Interesting!

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

jesus1412 is just mad because he can't compete in normal maps

The saddest stories are always the true ones.

Seriously, I could imagine you failing a map just because you'd stream too fast.

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

Seriously, I could imagine you failing a map just because you'd stream too fast.

I did that on Ridorii last year. I was sad. (and left the competition afterwards)

This year, if Mendes pops up, I'll be able to play it well! 1 year of painful practice has made me even worse at fast streams!

Cause MENDES would totally be a great map to pick

Mr Color wrote: g56l

Cause MENDES would totally be a great map to pick

also reserving slot for Indonesia.

NL Team

Captain: GladiOol
#2: zozozofun
#3: laport
#4: eddieee
#5: Lesjuh
#6: Renard
#7: H4ppySt1ck
#8: Henkie

I might change some of the players, as I don't know if they want to/are active enough to play.




To Loctav: please don't delete/edit post. please don't ban me for 170 hours. thanks in advance!!!!

Please mark 2 of this 8 as optional (in case we allow 8 players, they get added, in case if not, they can't participate). Adding the first 6 of this for now.
We'll see how many people actually NEED 8 participants. Depending on this, the limits might get adjusted.

And I love you, GladiOol, thanks in advance! :'D

xsrsbsns wrote: 6q406a

Any chance of including a losers' bracket for this? ie. double eliminations format

It'll take a lot more time on scheduling though..

I doubt we will be able to set this up. Sorry. :C

I'll be the captain of the Italian team; we'll choose our players soon : )

oie introduzo aqui nosso time
hi here I introduce our team

captain: fabriciorby
#2: Blue Dragon
#3: Caco Roth
#4: antsu

talvez eu mude e/ou adicione jogadores de back-up, obrigado mlk
I may change or add more players (back-up ones), thanks in advance

edit:
Back-ups: Gaba
#2: Ghost Princess

CAN I BE ARGENTINA'S CAPTAIN AGAIN?

I will, of course.

thelewa wrote: 4e2o3k

edit: I just checked the last thread, you should use it for advice too. The maps for the Finals were on the level of Chousai Kenbo Sengen and F.I, so not really hard at all. They were basically all the tiebreakers and a few extra maps.

Yeah, I went over it and already using it as a guide for what maps to pick. Still, I think it would be nice to have the possibility of having some slightly more advanced maps pattern-wise (and not speed-wise. i.e. maps with jumps and streams everybody can do, but complex patterns like back and forth stacking, sv changes, 1/4 sliders, 1/3 timing circles and so on) for the later stages of the tourney. Still, will see.

Also, I don't think everybody is going to FC a map like chousai (w @ AR8) or just awake...

Renard wrote: j4v6x

if that would be true then i put my white flag up right now and surrender coz i aint playing no aqo maps ;(

Renard please D:

just flip on your mind control switch and you'll be fine.

The maps that will be selected would be in line with the requirements for the tourney, and their difficulty levels will be carefully selected in accordance with the mods that they're supposed to be played with (so you're not going to see Ghost Lead in the HR map pool, or Wahrheit in the HD pool, and so on).



Also, posting this from a guard tower on the border of my military base. It's 2AM and I discovered there's wifi here. ha.

I will continue to pay attention to it.

all clear except one question " Mapset Selector - each round needs a specific set of maps being preset in a mappool. This requires you to be experienced in gameplay and evaluating maps in their difficulty and style."

i know captains of two sides will select the maps in the match, but who will preset the competng maps in a mappool? staff or player?

Sakamoto san wrote: 224r71

all clear except one question " Mapset Selector - each round needs a specific set of maps being preset in a mappool. This requires you to be experienced in gameplay and evaluating maps in their difficulty and style."

i know captains of two sides will select the maps in the match, but who will preset the competng maps in a mappool? staff or player?

staff
actually someone has already taken this seat, but i think some more is needed

Derekku wrote: 4y3835

I'll captain the USA team. Just putting that out there. :v

No offense to past captains but we need to get our shit together. :p

Would like to , but i probably suck too much

FOR THE KING
FOR THE LAND
FOR THE CHINESE

(Participants may change over time.)

Team China
Time Zone: GMT+8

Captain: SunnyMario
#2:wobeinimacao
#3:N a n o
#4:GGBY
#5:XSH
#6:Sprosive

Added on Nov. 5
#7:Tachibana Isana

Added on Nov. 9
#8:Sora

Nice! Hope chinese team will have a good grade!
I'll pay attention to the world cup~

SunnyMario wrote: 6t92b

FOR THE KING
FOR THE LAND
FOR THE CHINESE

(Participants may change over time.)

Team China
Time Zone: GMT+8

Captain: SunnyMario
#2:wobeinimacao
#3:N a n o
#4:GGBY
#5:Torein 13rd
#6:Sprosive

nice~

SunnyMario wrote: 6t92b

FOR THE KING
FOR THE LAND
FOR THE CHINESE

(Participants may change over time.)

Team China
Time Zone: GMT+8

Captain: SunnyMario
#2:wobeinimacao
#3:N a n o
#4:GGBY
#5:XSH
#6:Sprosive

壮我天朝

Good LUCK~

SunnyMario wrote: 6t92b

FOR THE KING
FOR THE LAND
FOR THE CHINESE

(Participants may change over time.)

Team China
Time Zone: GMT+8

Captain: SunnyMario
#2:wobeinimacao
#3:N a n o
#4:GGBY
#5:XSH
#6:Sprosive

That's m'y country!

A problem here:
In the previous OWC, failed score won't count. So first i think this should be mentioned...
Then the more serious part: Now we have the "revive" thing in MP when you get your HP full again after failed. Is scores like this count, or not?

NatsumeRin wrote: 2q1fi

A problem here:
In the previous OWC, failed score won't count. So first i think this should be mentioned...
Then the more serious part: Now we have the "revive" thing in MP when you get your HP full again after failed. Is scores like this count, or not?

Each player will be streammed so we will see if they fail or not. Another alternative is to ask players to save the replay at the end of a game (F2) and to send it to owc#3 s.

NatsumeRin wrote: 2q1fi

A problem here:
In the previous OWC, failed score won't count. So first i think this should be mentioned...
Then the more serious part: Now we have the "revive" thing in MP when you get your HP full again after failed. Is scores like this count, or not?

I only know that the score will no be added to ranked score even if you revived.

Chinese team for champion

I adore all of you whose names are on the list

have fun lol~~~~

scrub team inc

Team Malaysia (GMT+8)

Captain: Gon
#2: xsrsbsns
#3: Zisam
#4: zenki0013
#5: TBA
#6: TBA

(i'll get confirmation for the final 2 slots soon)

cheers~

Sounds good!!!

Gon wrote: 4u153

scrub team inc

Team Malaysia (GMT+8)

Captain: Gon
#2: xsrsbsns
#3: Zisam
#4: zenki0013
#5: TBA
#6: TBA

(i'll get confirmation for the final 2 slots soon)

cheers~

kit kat op

NatsumeRin wrote: 2q1fi

A problem here:
In the previous OWC, failed score won't count. So first i think this should be mentioned...
Then the more serious part: Now we have the "revive" thing in MP when you get your HP full again after failed. Is scores like this count, or not?

fartownik wrote: 2lq4u

Macacito wrote: 2p3p3a

is reviving legal on this tournament? it shouldnt

It will be taken care of, you shouldn't bother so much with it right now.

(edit: and no, failed scores won't count in)

fabriciorby wrote: d3m18

oie introduzo aqui nosso time
hi here I introduce our team

captain: fabriciorby
#2: Blue Dragon
#3: Caco Roth
#4: antsu

talvez eu mude e/ou adicione jogadores de back-up, obrigado mlk
I may change or add more players (back-up ones), thanks in advance

edit:
Back-ups: Gaba
#2: Ghost Princess

nnn fab, sou ruim ;w;

SunnyMario wrote: 6t92b

FOR THE KING
FOR THE LAND
FOR THE CHINESE

(Participants may change over time.)

Team China
Time Zone: GMT+8

Captain: SunnyMario
#2:wobeinimacao
#3:N a n o
#4:GGBY
#5:XSH
#6:Sprosive

Be confident.(I don't think the robot will attend OWC and I demand to see your SS)

I'm captaining the Singapore team for OWC, please don't ask why as it's rather lulzy.
Time zone: GMT +8

Captain:Bardiche_Z
#2: Onozuka-Komachi
#3: rainfall1997
#4: WTPhox
#5: jonchua
#6:Renegate

Cheers!

Bardiche_Z

Team Iceland (GMT+0)

Captain: Mantis
#2: -
#3: -
#4: -
#5: -
#6: -

CHINESE GO GO GO!

Gaba wrote: u5r6l

nnn fab, sou ruim ;w;

So we have a change here, instead of Gaba, could you put Velusk for back-up? http://osu-ppy-sh.cinevost.com/u/741565
thanks

Waiting for USA and teams /o/

Mantis wrote: 6f4o1p

Team Iceland (GMT+0)

Captain: Mantis
#2: -
#3: -
#4: -
#5: -
#6: -

come denmark heuuhehue

Denmark (GMT +1)
Captain: Emaal
#2: ThePal
#3: Heibel
#4: TraxieChan
#5:
#6:

all other pros from my country are retired :S

Just posting that we need 8 players. I really can't see the problem with us having more. Just add it in already.

GladiOol wrote: 2t3n4p

Just posting that we need 8 players. I really can't see the problem with us having more. Just add it in already.

Do you even need 6? I mean, is 4 not enough, then it's optional to take 6?

Emaal wrote: 4r1i7

GladiOol wrote: 2t3n4p

Just posting that we need 8 players. I really can't see the problem with us having more. Just add it in already.

Do you even need 6? I mean, is 4 not enough, then it's optional to take 6?

Don't click the spoilerbox if you're easily scared/startled!


Not everybody is available every week. Last owc we played the first 3 group rounds with 3 people because we never had enough to play.
Surprisingly we still won all 3.

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

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Sunny Mario, [...]

Sunny Mario

XPJ38 wrote: 3m2l40

Loctav wrote: 4r5h2e

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Sunny Mario, [...]

Sunny Mario

hahahaha